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toby2533
10-10-2013, 11:02
Ok, so my new house will be done in November, I have cat-5 run to all places were a TV will be. but will also have wireless for computers and other things. So my tech head brothers and sisters tell what to buy, so I can get the jump on these 12 yr shit talkers.

Rickety Rob
10-10-2013, 11:20
Why would you use a wireless router to game?

The only person you'll be kicking, is your own ass lol.

If you have cat five ran through out the house, why not use what have for a direct connection.

Also, if you want to go a different route, you can do a 1 Port Powerline adapter kit.

Here's the thread on which I approached and literally have no problems, especially when it comes to lag.

http://forums.usmilitarygamers.com/showthread.php?10874-NETGEAR-1port-Powerline-Adapter-Kit

jxspyder
10-10-2013, 11:32
Yeah, direct connect > wireless.

Sent from the muddy banks of the Wishkaw

Ragingclue
10-10-2013, 11:36
Well if you've got wired as an option, forget wireless for gaming or for streaming.

There's really no such thing as a wireless gaming router IMO, because of the nature of the protocol.

Rickety Rob
10-10-2013, 11:40
If you want to use a wireless router for, let say your phone, tablet or something in that nature.

I would recommend a Linksys.

I have one and I have no problems.

If you going to game on a comp, I would never use a wireless router.

toby2533
10-10-2013, 11:47
I'm using wired for gaming but need the wireless for the smart phone and the kids Ipod touches

Port66
10-10-2013, 12:22
I prefer the belkin and then have a wifi extender for the upstairs to make sure there is no spotty coverage.

benefits of my belkin is scheduled maintenance reboots. we all know restarting your router helps, well Belkin allows you to set a time, I chose tuesday and friday at like 3 am.

here is the one I use

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/belkin-n600-dual-band-wireless-n-router-with-4-port-switch-and-usb-port/2089307.p?id=1218309073148&skuId=2089307&ref=30&loc=KW-4072&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=2089307&extensionType={adtype}:{network}&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!{keyword}!{matchtype}!{adwords_producttargetid}!{network}!{ ifmobile:M}!{creative}&kpid=2089307&k_clickid=5f0e6063-5133-2929-dbb8-00000e55c3d9

and I use this extender, but mine has a tiny white lite to show its powered. I picked this one because it sits on the plug or has a cord that comes with it if I want it on a table.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/n300-dual-band-wireless-range-extender/9402102.p?id=1219015282542&skuId=9402102&st=linksys%20wifi%20extender&cp=1&lp=5


With this setup and only my pc and 360 wired, I can have 3 android tablets on netflix, 2 ipads , play eve on PC and minecraft on 2 360's all at once on 30 mb internet. I dont notice any lag.

comanche_warior
10-10-2013, 12:47
Why would you use a wireless router to game?

The only person you'll be kicking, is your own ass lol.

If you have cat five ran through out the house, why not use what have for a direct connection.

Also, if you want to go a different route, you can do a 1 Port Powerline adapter kit.

Here's the thread on which I approached and literally have no problems, especially when it comes to lag.

http://forums.usmilitarygamers.com/showthread.php?10874-NETGEAR-1port-Powerline-Adapter-Kit

Is this what you have Rob?

Rickety Rob
10-10-2013, 12:53
Is this what you have Rob?

I sure do.

Elimnates all the wiring so you don't have to worry about a long ass cat-5 cable and you don't have to worry about wifi.

Crazy to say but you use the power lines of your house and those lines work just like your cat-5 cable.

Its freaking awesome

comanche_warior
10-10-2013, 13:47
I sure do.

Elimnates all the wiring so you don't have to worry about a long ass cat-5 cable and you don't have to worry about wifi.

Crazy to say but you use the power lines of your house and those lines work just like your cat-5 cable.

Its freaking awesome

They had this type of thing for dial up and it wasnt that great but if its working for you I will get it. Whats your internet speed?

Ragingclue
10-10-2013, 14:39
I can vouch for the powerline adapter concept if wired is not an option (although technically the powerline is a wired setup too).

iamthesgt
10-10-2013, 14:48
I would wager power line is a little slower, but on a fast connection you're not going to notice.

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Port66
10-10-2013, 15:14
I would wager power line is a little slower, but on a fast connection you're not going to notice.

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it is a slightly lower speed, but still faster than the ISP speed, the science is simple its copper to copper really. I use Cat 5 or twisted pairs to transport everything at work. cuts down on needs for custom wire or expensive installs.

comanche_warior
10-10-2013, 16:43
Im using wifi too and my house only has one phone jack. Yes I know thats stupid, my house was built by a retard anyways I cant run a CAT-5 or ethernet cable to my room unless I run it outside to the 3rd story side where my rooms at. Let me say theres no way in hell I am getting my fat ass on a ladder to run it that high in the air. If this system works shoot Im sold on it and my speed is 5mbps.

Rickety Rob
10-11-2013, 06:45
They had this type of thing for dial up and it wasnt that great but if its working for you I will get it. Whats your internet speed?

Not sure what my internet speed is but I'm running comcast and whatever speed they are giving me, i'm having no issues.

I have no lag and clarity is pretty damn good

toby2533
10-11-2013, 07:48
got the stuff port has all I need is my own house 11/8. Yeah no more anyone telling me not to play or I should come to bed, FTW!!!

smoke
10-11-2013, 09:47
If you want to use a wireless router for, let say your phone, tablet or something in that nature.

I would recommend a Linksys.

I have one and I have no problems.

If you going to game on a comp, I would never use a wireless router.
Linksys, belkin, netgear, are all entry level units you can get at best buy. While I agree with these guys to go wired for gaming, if your looking for a top notch wireless router, with lots of options for expansion, and better performance then the nubetube routers the kids get from mommy, order yourself an Asus RT-AC66U or 68U.
I have a 66U, and it is so far beyond better then the mainstream companies, there just isn't a comparison.

I would say, the only APs better then the Asus models are gonna be business/enterprise grade - yes, it is that good.

It does come at a premium, expect to pay close to $200, but it IMO is certainly money well spent.

Rickety Rob
10-11-2013, 10:27
Linksys, belkin, netgear, are all entry level units you can get at best buy. While I agree with these guys to go wired for gaming, if your looking for a top notch wireless router, with lots of options for expansion, and better performance then the nubetube routers the kids get from mommy, order yourself an Asus RT-AC66U or 68U.
I have a 66U, and it is so far beyond better then the mainstream companies, there just isn't a comparison.

I would say, the only APs better then the Asus models are gonna be business/enterprise grade - yes, it is that good.

It does come at a premium, expect to pay close to $200, but it IMO is certainly money well spent.

But who wants to spend 200 on a wireless router...not this guy lol

smoke
10-11-2013, 10:49
But who wants to spend 200 on a wireless router...not this guy lol


The guy that doesnt wanna hear their wife bitch about how shitty their connection is, and why their YouTube videos are stuck at buffering.
Or me, that's who.. Its okay we know your a cheapass.. ;). Luv luv kiss kiss

Rickety Rob
10-11-2013, 12:33
The guy that doesnt wanna hear their wife bitch about how shitty their connection is, and why their YouTube videos are stuck at buffering.
Or me, that's who.. Its okay we know your a cheapass.. ;). Luv luv kiss kiss

I sure am lol

comanche_warior
10-12-2013, 13:09
I sure am lol

Thats ok man I am too lol

CrzyChinook
10-12-2013, 13:59
I like Dlink and have had three of their gaming routers the newest one in the series is this one

Gaming Router AC1300 with StreamBoost™ TechnologyYou are a gamer. A streamer. A competitor. A watcher. A consumer. You are all these things and more. Connect with something powerful enough to keep up with you. D-Link’s Gaming Router features powerful traffic shaping technology that gives you real-time control over your bandwidth so that – whatever you’re into – you can do more and lag less.

http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Products/DGL/5500/Other/learnmorebutton.png (http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/gaming-router/the-difference?webSyncID=96de9a17-c793-b059-9514-35cee6c3c78e&sessionGUID=a7672a4a-753a-435e-5895-70624dd42be7)
http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Headers/your_current_router_is_doin.pnghttp://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Assets/feed_the_game.png?h=239&w=250We've all experienced it: gaming, interrupted. Room mates streaming movies, family members downloading large files, significant others using Skype or Facetime -- this is your bandwidth! The lifeblood of your gaming experience! Protect it while ensuring that everyone else in your home gets the best possible online experiences with D-Link's Gaming Router with StreamBoost.
QoS has been promising to solve the problem of multiple, simultaneous web users for years, without ever fully delivering. So when we got our hands on StreamBoost we were as skeptical as you likely are. Until we experienced the performance. StreamBoost isn't QoS -- it's something much more powerful. A sophisticated Traffic Shaping engine intelligently manages bandwidth in ways traditional QoS engines can't touch. And because it is both app-aware and device-aware, you can be confident that the indignity and inconvenience of lag has become a thing of the past.

http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Assets/withoutstreamboostdiagramv2.png?h=297&w=325http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Assets/withstreamboostdiagramv2.png?h=297&w=325http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Headers/what_is_streamboost_anyway.pnghttp://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Assets/gamingrouter_mockui.png?h=232&w=300The next big thing is always around the corner. And whether it's an expansive MMO, a competitive FPS, or the newest RTS, the demands made on your limited bandwidth often create interruptions in packet delivery and a poor gaming session. StreamBoost automatically adjusts and controls Internet bandwidth using a sophisticated Traffic Shaping engine. Much more than a simple QoS, Traffic Shaping actually reserves segments of your Internet bandwidth when the application is detected by the router. With a unique cloud-based updating and crowd-sourced profile creation system, the Gaming Router is always evolving to offer the best experiences for the newest apps, games and devices. Background applications like large file downloads, Cloud Storage SYNCs, and system updates no longer have to be suspended for game or movie time. What does this mean? Happy gamers. Happy roommates. And the best online experience you've ever had.

http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Headers/streamboost_is_win.png

Dynamically manage bandwidth with sophisticated Traffic Shaping engine
Drag and drop apps and devices in an easy-to-use UI to ensure the best possible user experinces
Crowd-sourced profile creation and cloud-based updating system means the Gaming Router evolves over time


http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/-/media/Images/Assets/trafficshaping.png?h=641&w=550



http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/dgl-5500-gaming-router
http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Wireless-Gaming-Router-StreamBoost/dp/B00DDK1QUC

saviger
10-13-2013, 11:57
I'm using wired for gaming but need the wireless for the smart phone and the kids Ipod touches

Cool, any Dual-Band Belkin or Dlink will work fine for that.

BULLETMAN
10-14-2013, 19:30
Along the same subject of internet and gaming, I just had to by a new ethernet cord and i was looking at them all and i guess there is a few kinds...Such as cat 5 , cat 5E , and cat 6..Now i read a bunch of stuff about the differences online but what is your guys opinion of what to use for gaming with the new XBOX 1 coming out?? I am having lag issues with my wireless router so i am gonna hook up with a wire now, i got the cat 5E....

iamthesgt
10-14-2013, 21:38
The category just has to do with the quality of the wire. Higher is better, but Cat 5 is fine. You probably wouldn't notice much difference with Cat 6.

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smoke
10-15-2013, 10:44
The category just has to do with the quality of the wire. Higher is better, but Cat 5 is fine. You probably wouldn't notice much difference with Cat 6.

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/agree, unless all of your switches/nics are gigabit.

5e is fine in most applications. I am actually moving to cat 6 now cause I have gigabit everywhere..

Now if only I could get Google fiber or FiOS...

saviger
10-15-2013, 10:54
/agree, unless all of your switches/nics are gigabit.

5e is fine in most applications. I am actually moving to cat 6 now cause I have gigabit everywhere..

Now if only I could get Google fiber or FiOS...

I will be running cat5e in my walls(price) OH YEAH! I will be moving to a new house next month. :D
5e will carry gigabit like 6. Cat6 is also a pain to crimp, that damn plastic separator in the cable.

I currently have cat5e throughout my apartment (along the walls and under the carpet), have gigabit everywhere.

smoke
10-15-2013, 12:17
Once again, either is suitable for home application. I'm only doing patch cables in cat 6 and leaving 5e in the walls. Your not running hundreds of nodes for extended distances, so benefits of cat6 are lost in your application.

BULLETMAN
10-17-2013, 20:30
The category just has to do with the quality of the wire. Higher is better, but Cat 5 is fine. You probably wouldn't notice much difference with Cat 6.

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Cool Deal, Thanks to everyone that input on my question, Thanks for the knowledge, it makes a lot more sense now......