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River_Rat_459
06-16-2010, 16:16
YAY! 'Bout time! Now if they'd just change the camo pattern to something worth a damn.


Army Cuts the Velcro
by Mike Krumboltz

In a move that has the Web buzzing, the U.S. Army has decided to banish Velcro from uniform pants and bring back buttons.

Replacing the fastener on uniforms isn't your traditional front-page news, but the shift has captured the attention of many. A buzzy article from USA Today explains that soldiers told their superiors that the Velcro's stickiness was being affected by the sand of the Afghanistan desert. Pockets weren't staying shut.

The Army surveyed 2,700 soliders, and 60% of them said they would prefer buttons for their cargo pockets (only 11% wanted to "stick" with Velcro). Authorities listened, and now it looks like the old-fashioned button will be making a return.

The USA Today goes on to mention that the move back to buttons will end up saving the Army nearly $1 per uniform. There is at least one other huge benefit: Unlike Velcro, buttons don't make any noise. In times of conflict and danger, silence can be absolutely vital.

But don't feel too bad for Velcro. It isn't going away from the uniforms completely. It will still be on the sleeves, and under the soldier's nameplates.

Like Post-it Notes and other "Why didn't I think of that?" inventions, the hook and loop fastener has long captured the attention of Web searchers. Envious lookups for "velcro inventor" and "who invented velcro" are always popular in the Search box.

Here's the scoop. According to Idea Finder, Velcro was the creation of Swiss inventor George de Mestral. Back in 1948, he took a walk in the woods. Upon returning to his home, he noticed that a lot of burrs had attached themselves to his clothes. Eager to understand why, de Mestral examined the burrs under a microscope and saw how the tiny hooks on the burrs meshed with the loops of the fabric. From that stroll, a famous invention was born.

It took de Mestral many years to bring his idea to the masses. But he stuck with it, and eventually his baby changed the way NASA makes space suits and old people wear sneakers.

Source: http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93760?fp=1

David_3033
06-16-2010, 16:47
I don't mind the camo pattern of your uniforms that much. I did think the velcro was kind of dumb and not very tactical though. :shock:

saviger
06-16-2010, 17:08
Its about damn time!

That was the MAIN COMPLAINT we sent up the chain when we tested then named CCU (Close Combat Uniform) in 2003 in Iraq, As the test unit for the ACU.
One thing the did change, the CCU had plastic snap buttons on the shoulder pockets instead of velcro, IMO the buttons where better.

http://camo.henrikc.dk/usa_ccu_front.jpg
http://camo.henrikc.dk/usa_ccu_label.jpg

saviger
06-16-2010, 17:11
Now if they'd just change the camo pattern to something worth a damn.


On that subject the new Multi-Cam pattern is currently being tested
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2405552195_4daa8c3845_o.jpg

David_3033
06-16-2010, 17:22
I can't believe how many different variations of camo there are out today.

A-25TH-ID-VET
06-16-2010, 20:22
I thought that the Velcro was a bad idea when I first heard about it. So, I wonder if they will go back to sew on name tags, unit patches and such???

MaximusR3
06-16-2010, 20:35
i never really got what was with the velcro attached chevrons and such. What is the thought behind that, tactical field demotions on the fly?

A-25TH-ID-VET
06-16-2010, 21:24
i never really got what was with the velcro attached chevrons and such. What is the thought behind that, tactical field demotions on the fly?
I feel it was just another way to make todays Military lazy. :?

saviger
06-17-2010, 00:12
i never really got what was with the velcro attached chevrons and such. What is the thought behind that, tactical field demotions on the fly?
I feel it was just another way to make todays Military lazy. :?

certain teams while on deep recon missions are authorized to "sterilize" their uniforms.

Also the velco patches and name tapes saves the army and individual soldiers some money, you only need 1 or two sets of patches and nametapes for all 8 uniforms.

squidfamily1
06-17-2010, 06:23
as long as i can keep the velcro straps on my tennis shoes I'm happy

MjolnirActual
06-17-2010, 11:38
Here is the thing that I like... the DOD is actually listening to us (them).

That is FRAKK'N HUGE!!!! and it looks like they didn't take 25 years and 8 gazillion bucks in studies to figure out what the boots on the ground were saying.

Nice... I mean hell we bitched and complained for how long in the Navy about 4 back pockets on our pants and that is just now getting addressed ... hell I think the first complaint there was handed to John Paul Jones personally *LOL*.

saviger
06-17-2010, 12:22
Here is the thing that I like... the DOD is actually listening to us (them).

That is FRAKK'N HUGE!!!! and it looks like they didn't take 25 years and 8 gazillion bucks in studies to figure out what the boots on the ground were saying.

Nice... I mean hell we bitched and complained for how long in the Navy about 4 back pockets on our pants and that is just now getting addressed ... hell I think the first complaint there was handed to John Paul Jones personally *LOL*.

Its good they are finnaly changing it, even though we told them back in 2003 while we where testing them in Iraq that Velco on the pants cargo pockets was a bad idea. The Army put velrco there anyway.

DaddyDietrich
06-19-2010, 21:49
from what i read on the army's S1.net about the uniforms and reasoning.
1) the DOD thought that if a soldier fell behind enemy lines that the soldier can take of any know object depicting him or her in th service.
2) the multi pattern is being issued for only soldiers that are deploying to Afghanistan and the soldiers there now will be issued them in October. the reason that pattern got picked was because the ACU pattern did not blend well with the dessert/vegetation that you find there and also snipers can pick you out while you wear the ACU better then the Multi cam uniforms.