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A1000YrdStare03
04-29-2014, 10:20
Ok, I did a search for this topic and saw that it was discussed before but looked like it came up in a different thread topic in 2011. So, I thought I would give this topic it's own thread being that there is probably no one who hates gaming lag more than me. Plus it may help people connect better to game servers.

The reason I'm posting this is because Verizon Fios has made big steps to help gamers with lag issues and have posted video instructions on how to change these settings. After watching these videos I thought I'd post them to help people understand what port forwarding means. I am by no means a computer programmer and had no idea what any of this meant until I saw these videos. But, I got tired of breaking controllers so I looked into it.

The first video is on port forwarding:

http://youtu.be/tDz_L-_0e2Y

This video is on DMZ settings:

http://youtu.be/CC2SKWoeb40

Ok, so after watching these videos I ended up just putting my Xbox One's IP address into the DMZ. Now any game I play online has a direct connection with the internet without passing through any firewall, or other security my router may have. If your someone who likes to surf the internet through your console, I wouldn't recommend this because your more open to malware, and viruses, or straight hacking. I only use my console to game with, I use my iPad, or desktop computer to go on the internet.

Smoke, or Port66, can probably explain this better than me but since I've done this my connection is much better, and my NAT type is always OPEN. If you do not have Verizon in your area you can probably search your router manufacturer on YouTube to get instructions on how to change your settings. I hope this helps some of you.




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smoke
04-29-2014, 13:09
Ok, I did a search for this topic and saw that it was discussed before but looked like it came up in a different thread topic in 2011. So, I thought I would give this topic it's own thread being that there is probably no one who hates gaming lag more than me. Plus it may help people connect better to game servers.

The reason I'm posting this is because Verizon Fios has made big steps to help gamers with lag issues and have posted video instructions on how to change these settings. After watching these videos I thought I'd post them to help people understand what port forwarding means. I am by no means a computer programmer and had no idea what any of this meant until I saw these videos. But, I got tired of breaking controllers so I looked into it.

The first video is on port forwarding:

http://youtu.be/tDz_L-_0e2Y

This video is on DMZ settings:

http://youtu.be/CC2SKWoeb40

Ok, so after watching these videos I ended up just putting my Xbox One's IP address into the DMZ. Now any game I play online has a direct connection with the internet without passing through any firewall, or other security my router may have. If your someone who likes to surf the internet through your console, I wouldn't recommend this because your more open to malware, and viruses, or straight hacking. I only use my console to game with, I use my iPad, or desktop computer to go on the internet.

Smoke, or Port66, can probably explain this better than me but since I've done this my connection is much better, and my NAT type is always OPEN. If you do not have Verizon in your area you can probably search your router manufacturer on YouTube to get instructions on how to change your settings. I hope this helps some of you.




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I probably would not add my console directly into the DMZ, because your console is directly on the internet with NO security. Personally, I would do a port forward from your router to the console, then atleast the packets are being analyzed prior to being forwarded to your console.

regardless on if your system is on, or not, most are WOL (Wake on LAN) enabled, so its possible, (albeit, unlikely, but still possible..) that even with the system is off, a remote packet could be sent to wake up your console, and then a person has full access to the console.

A1000YrdStare03
04-29-2014, 13:22
I probably would not add my console directly into the DMZ, because your console is directly on the internet with NO security. Personally, I would do a port forward from your router to the console, then atleast the packets are being analyzed prior to being forwarded to your console.

regardless on if your system is on, or not, most are WOL (Wake on LAN) enabled, so its possible, (albeit, unlikely, but still possible..) that even with the system is off, a remote packet could be sent to wake up your console, and then a person has full access to the console.

Really wow, I did not know that. I knew you would know more about this than I could ever figure out! Lol! So, you think it's safer to port forward your console for certain games you play, such as, Call of Duty? It's just a pain if you play several games that have multiplayer because you have to look up there port numbers and put them in separately. I guess if it's safer than it's worth it!!


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smoke
04-29-2014, 13:31
Really wow, I did not know that. I knew you would know more about this than I could ever figure out! Lol! So, you think it's safer to port forward your console for certain games you play, such as, Call of Duty? It's just a pain if you play several games that have multiplayer because you have to look up there port numbers and put them in separately. I guess if it's safer than it's worth it!!


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Most games should use the same standard ports for voice chat, etc. To be honest, I have never done port forwarding at all with my router, and my multiplayer has worked fine on both Battlefield and CoD.

Some routers, allow port forwarding, by game title, so you might look at the settings for your router and see if you can do that, so you don't have to look up a bunch of port numbers.:eyebrows:

A1000YrdStare03
04-29-2014, 13:50
Most games should use the same standard ports for voice chat, etc. To be honest, I have never done port forwarding at all with my router, and my multiplayer has worked fine on both Battlefield and CoD.

Some routers, allow port forwarding, by game title, so you might look at the settings for your router and see if you can do that, so you don't have to look up a bunch of port numbers.:eyebrows:

Thanks Smoke, I will make that change tonight when I get home from work.

Yeah, I don't know if I'm lagging because of where I live there is so many people on these servers, or something. I don't know, and I'll never fully understand it!!


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smoke
04-29-2014, 13:59
Thanks Smoke, I will make that change tonight when I get home from work.

Yeah, I don't know if I'm lagging because of where I live there is so many people on these servers, or something. I don't know, and I'll never fully understand it!!


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There are several factors that could affect performance. #1 cause would be bandwidth contention. If you have a limited pipe, and you have multiple devices all vying for bandwidth, you can get performance degradation. (If you have Cable, the performance degradation can be all your neighbors (cable is shared bandwidth), so, it may not necessarily be anything your doing, but a collective of what your neighbors are doing. )

If you don't mind me asking, What is the specs of your broadband? (12MB down, 768KB up?) DSL/Cable?

#2 would be host throttling - this is the server, limiting or reducing the speed of the connection, because its overwhelmed with network request.
#3 would be packet filters/firewall (normally this isn't an issue, because the client is normally initiating this connection, therefore the firewall doesn't restrict it.)

A1000YrdStare03
04-29-2014, 14:13
There are several factors that could affect performance. #1 cause would be bandwidth contention. If you have a limited pipe, and you have multiple devices all vying for bandwidth, you can get performance degradation. (If you have Cable, the performance degradation can be all your neighbors (cable is shared bandwidth), so, it may not necessarily be anything your doing, but a collective of what your neighbors are doing. )

If you don't mind me asking, What is the specs of your broadband? (12MB down, 768KB up?) DSL/Cable?

#2 would be host throttling - this is the server, limiting or reducing the speed of the connection, because its overwhelmed with network request.
#3 would be packet filters/firewall (normally this isn't an issue, because the client is normally initiating this connection, therefore the firewall doesn't restrict it.)

I have this:

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Officially-Announces-FiOS-Quantum-119976

I have the 75/35 Mbps package. But I do have a shit load of devices attached to my network. There are 2 cell phones, 2 iPads, a desk top computer, and a 2 lap top computers. Could this stuff be causing my internet to slow down. Does a phone that is on,but not being used as far as searching the internet, cause the network to work slower?


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smoke
04-29-2014, 14:26
I have this:

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Officially-Announces-FiOS-Quantum-119976

I have the 75/35 Mbps package. But I do have a shit load of devices attached to my network. There are 2 cell phones, 2 iPads, a desk top computer, and a 2 lap top computers. Could this stuff be causing my internet to slow down. Does a phone that is on,but not being used as far as searching the internet, cause the network to work slower?


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Not likely, not with that package. and if your Fios, I do not believe you are sharing downstream..
Do you use the modem, with just a switch, or does the Fios Modem have a built in switch, or are you cascading another router in back of the Fios modem?
Have you tried contacting verizon support? or do you even know?


Have you done a speedtest, and see a lot of latency? http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Try these sites, they are helpful in outlining any performance issues :


http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/index.html
http://www.measurementlab.net/

A1000YrdStare03
04-29-2014, 14:37
Not likely, not with that package. and if your Fios, I do not believe you are sharing downstream..
Do you use the modem, with just a switch, or does the Fios Modem have a built in switch, or are you cascading another router in back of the Fios modem?
Have you tried contacting verizon support? or do you even know?


Have you done a speedtest, and see a lot of latency? http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Try these sites, they are helpful in outlining any performance issues :


http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/index.html
http://www.measurementlab.net/


Yeah, I have spoken to Verizon support and they sent me there most updated router, it's there advanced router. It's suppose to allow the upload and download speeds I am paying for with Quantum to work even wirelessly. It also has a range of 100 feet instead of just 25 feet. There is no switching anything, the modem is built into the router.

I have this router:

http://www.verizon.com/home/MLP/bhr3router.html?CMP=DMC-CVD_ZZ_ZZ_E_ZZ_N_X00025


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