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RogueScot
06-30-2014, 17:29
So, I got denied for a VA IRRL refinance today for "insufficient documentation" on a loan I've been trying to get done for the last two months. Worst experience getting a loan I've every had. Below is the email I sent to the CEO's office.


Dear Sir,

I am writing to you today to describe what I have experienced trying to get a VA Interest Rate Reduction Refinance Loan (IRRL) from USAA. Although I had read on the VA web site this was a very easy loan to get done with very limited requirements such as no appraisal needed, or credit underwriting package required, my experience with USAA has been anything but easy.

I started the the loan process at the end of April and today found out it had been denied because they lacked sufficient documentation. I asked the loan processor repeatedly, if there was anything I needed to do. I never received any answer. When I received a notification in my account on May 28 that I needed to provide documentation of sanitary and structural repairs, I contacted her and asked what it meant and that I was unaware of any required repairs. It also said I needed to send in an IRS form 4506-T. I had already sent in this form on May 5 and it was viewable on the USAA web site.

I have never experienced the level of disregard, or incompetence I experienced with my loan processor, Terrie Brewer. It was almost impossible to get ahold of her. When I did, she never had any information for me and would tell me she would call me back in a hour. She never would call me back. I would have to call her back, or email her. I left many messages hoping her voicemail greeting stating she would call me back by the close of business would be true this time.

The loan amount was wrong on all of my paperwork. I asked many times if this was a problem only to be told it wasn't and would be fixed before closing. I had been completely unable to reach her for the last two weeks. I was at least hopeful something was progressing when the web site showed the title commitment had been ordered. Today when I logged on to check, I saw the denial and called a supervisor. Talking with her was the first time I had ever been made aware of any need for repairs. Regardless of the fact that my unneccesary appraisal showed my value, even without the repairs would have more than covered the refinance amount. I was refinancing $70,000. My appraisal is $224,000.

The supervisor suggested I contact a loan originator and talk to them. Well, guess what. We started all over again. So, I've lost my great interest rate. I paid $350 to basically get jerked around by an incompetent loan processor and now I get to pay $350 for the privilege of doing it all over again. $700 for what was supposed to be an easy loan two months ago. Nice.

Your commercials talk about what a great job you do for veterans. So far, I haven't seen it.


Chris Cook
12 Year Veteran of the USAF/OKANG & Gulf War Veteran

To their credit, I've already heard back from the CEO's office. They've promised to have a business specialist look into my account and contact me directly.

jxspyder
06-30-2014, 19:55
Chris, what state do you live in? Look up the state's Commission of Banks/Finance and file a complaint. This gets your issue forwarded to local management, and will likely skip a couple of hoops from Corporate.

Brian
06-30-2014, 20:00
Hopefully they fix it and make it right.


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RogueScot
07-01-2014, 08:25
I live in Oklahoma.


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jxspyder
07-01-2014, 08:46
Start here: http://www.ok.gov/banking/Complaints/index.html

smoke
07-02-2014, 07:43
I had USAA up until we tried to buy our house up in Minneapolis. We made our binder deposit, and then USAA mysteriously came back and said my pre-approval was declined because my wife didn't provide enough documentation on her employment. (WHICH WAS COMPLETE BULLSHIT)

After that, I told them to eff-themselves, closed my auto insurance policy, and all my USAA accounts, including the kids 529 accounts. I will never do business with USAA. They are a bunch of two-faced, two-timing, double-dealing .... etc. etc. etc..

Find yourself a local bank to do business with, in my experience, local banks, credit unions, etc, are much more likely to work with you, and discuss your specific situation/needs, and will help make sure you get what you need.

A1000YrdStare03
07-02-2014, 07:53
USAA is a complete scam. They claim to be for veterans when actually they are ripping you off!! Compared to other insurance companies and banks USAA is far more expensive. It angers me every time I see there commercials stating they help veterans!! They are a bunch of scumbags in my opinion!!!


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RogueScot
07-02-2014, 08:23
This is my first experience with them. I've already spoken with a rep from the CEO's office. they contacted me via email within three hours of my initial email and called me the next morning. She apologized profusely and admitted they didn't didn't take care of me and the loan processor didn't do her job properly. They promised a complete "post-mortem" of my file by the executive leadership team. They've refunded my $350 application fee and assigned me to another processor on a different team who I've already talked to and learned more than I did in the entire past two months. I've been promised updates on the status of my loan at least every 72 hours. I've been told to call my contact in the CEO's office if I feel, at any time, like I am not being properly taken care of to my satisfaction.


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smoke
07-04-2014, 08:18
USAA is a complete scam. They claim to be for veterans when actually they are ripping you off!! Compared to other insurance companies and banks USAA is far more expensive. It angers me every time I see there commercials stating they help veterans!! They are a bunch of scumbags in my opinion!!!


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YES, absolutely agree.
While they may "in fact" help veterns, its usually at a greater expense and/or greater interest rate. and that's if they don't fuck up your paperwork.:nono:

ShroudSciuridae
07-04-2014, 10:48
USAA failed to file the proper paperwork on my IRA, causing the IRS to come after me for $3k. I got it sorted out but not without a bit of work on my part, and seemingly none from USAA.

RogueScot
07-14-2014, 19:11
Well, I'm done with USAA on my refinance. The new processor told me I still had to complete the repairs from the first loan application. When I asked why I was told it was a VA requirement. So, we began to try and get everything done. It was going to be a daunting task, but the fact I had to do them at all still bugged me. So, I called the VA Regional Loan Center in Houston and asked them if repairs were required for a VA IRRRL loan. They told me they were not. Repairs were only required on the purchase of a home. When I told the loan processor this she told me they had to be completed anyway, but couldn't tell me why. I had caught her in a lie at worst, or telling me something she had no idea about at best. So, I complained to the member advocate from the CEO's office. I was then told it was because of their policy for ensuring investor quality of mortgages. All of this via email, because I didn't get her phone number the last time we talked. Well, I was pissed and I complained to the CEO's office again and I let them know I would be letting everyone on USMG know about my experiences. Over the weekend we decided not to proceed and my wife took to Facebook to complain to her friends about it. Oh, and she tagged USAA in her post. :) And, I answered people's questions about what was going on. Today, the member advocate got back in touch with me. She had also seen the posts on Facebook. Surprise! We discussed the new problems I was having and I told her of our decision to withdraw. To her and USAA's credit, they have decided to refund me my original $350 loan origination fee from the first loan in addition to the second $350, so this experience hasn't cost me any money. She also wanted me to let all of you know that you should complain if you are having issues with USAA. You will get a member advocate assigned to you, too who can help with any issues you are having. She also said that's the only way the executive team and CEO's office will know if members are dissatisfied and they can identify problems. I don't think I will go back to them for my loan, but I am satisfied with how they handled my complaints.

jxspyder
07-14-2014, 23:22
So in other words, complain and they may consider taking your claim seriously......that's pretty shitty customer service.

RogueScot
07-15-2014, 05:56
Yep, but it works the same way most places these days it seems. :) I was surprised they gave me back my money from the first loan application.


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