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tracker_usmc
05-10-2011, 17:34
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110509/us_yblog_thelookout/local-pastor-made-up-elaborate-navy-seal-tale

jxspyder
05-10-2011, 17:38
Pa-the-tic.

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Ironhide400
05-10-2011, 17:41
Pa-the-tic.

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Yes Sir! Sad, very sad.

GriffinSentinel
05-10-2011, 18:58
Looks like someone is going to become very familiar with the Stolen Valor Act.

David_3033
05-10-2011, 19:10
I thought they now did away with the stole valor act. Kind of like that guy who got away with wearing Marine Corps dress blues, captain insignias, silver stars, and purple hearts. I think they ended up saying it was "freedom of speech" or some BS like that. What a shitbag!

XxSilentxFartxX
05-10-2011, 19:42
It is deemed unconstitutional at the moment. A new bill is in congress now.

toby2533
05-11-2011, 06:33
This guy is in central PA, the reason this is getting so much attention the Patriot news out of Harrisburg did a big story about him, taking him at his word without checking on his service. Several Vet organizations called the paper about the story to complain then the TV news got a hold of this and pushed it, now national news and internet are running with this. Me I think the fact he will lose his job and have to face small town, were no one ever forgets anything is justice enough. I think the newspaper is part to blame for not checking on this guys service, ask to see his dd214.

squidfamily1
05-11-2011, 08:31
This guy is in central PA, the reason this is getting so much attention the Patriot news out of Harrisburg did a big story about him, taking him at his word without checking on his service. Several Vet organizations called the paper about the story to complain then the TV news got a hold of this and pushed it, now national news and internet are running with this. Me I think the fact he will lose his job and have to face small town, were no one ever forgets anything is justice enough. I think the newspaper is part to blame for not checking on this guys service, ask to see his dd214.

Absolutely, I always double check anything a religious person tells me.

GriffinSentinel
05-11-2011, 09:13
I thought they now did away with the stole valor act. Kind of like that guy who got away with wearing Marine Corps dress blues, captain insignias, silver stars, and purple hearts. I think they ended up saying it was "freedom of speech" or some BS like that. What a shitbag!


It is deemed unconstitutional at the moment. A new bill is in congress now.

BS beyond BS. A service member would get Articles thrown at them and then some. A separated/retired service member or civilian is getting, in essence, a slap on the wrist (MoH is the exception). Letting this happen dilutes the meaning and significance of the medals and the service men/women behind them. I don't know what I would do to those who lie about this but I don't want to see them get away with it. Some kind of fine, jail time or stigma of being a social pariah needs to be attached to doing this.

Also I'm getting tired of people hiding behind the First Amendment to get off of crap like this. It's freedom of speech my ass.

A-25TH-ID-VET
05-11-2011, 10:53
Also I'm getting tired of people hiding behind the First Amendment to get off of crap like this. It's freedom of speech my ass.Totally agree here.... It is happening WAY to much now days. This particular guy will have to face the Community but, I bet he relocates.

jxspyder
05-11-2011, 11:13
Totally agree here.... It is happening WAY to much now days. This particular guy will have to face the Community but, I bet he relocates.

Military vigilantism. Where ever he relocates, the story relocates with him. Freedom of Speech.

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David_3033
05-11-2011, 12:18
BS beyond BS. A service member would get Articles thrown at them and then some. A separated/retired service member or civilian is getting, in essence, a slap on the wrist (MoH is the exception). Letting this happen dilutes the meaning and significance of the medals and the service men/women behind them. I don't know what I would do to those who lie about this but I don't want to see them get away with it. Some kind of fine, jail time or stigma of being a social pariah needs to be attached to doing this.

Also I'm getting tired of people hiding behind the First Amendment to get off of crap like this. It's freedom of speech my ass.

Oh trust me I think its complete crap hiding behind freedom of speech...

toby2533
05-11-2011, 13:23
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110511/ap_on_re_us/us_seal_sleuths

Here is the story of the main group that called this guy out. Here is my favorite part:
"There were about 500 SEALs that operated in Vietnam, and I've met all 20,000 of them," joked Steve Waterman, a retired Navy diver from South Thomaston, who said he has exposed more than 100 phony SEALs over the years.

Now I travel a lot and meet Marines all the time I will say most guys tell me they were a Sniper or Force Recon, then they ask me and I say crypto comm tech(most give me a puzzled look).

jxspyder
05-11-2011, 14:17
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110511/ap_on_re_us/us_seal_sleuths

Here is the story of the main group that called this guy out. Here is my favorite part:
"There were about 500 SEALs that operated in Vietnam, and I've met all 20,000 of them," joked Steve Waterman, a retired Navy diver from South Thomaston, who said he has exposed more than 100 phony SEALs over the years.

Now I travel a lot and meet Marines all the time I will say most guys tell me they were a Sniper or Force Recon, then they ask me and I say crypto comm tech(most give me a puzzled look).

That's awesome, lol. All the SEALs I've ever met, I just ask them their class number. So out of the hundreds, I figure I've met 2. 3 if you count friend who let me in on this trick. But he could be lying too. /shifty-eyes

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A-25TH-ID-VET
05-11-2011, 16:16
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110511/ap_on_re_us/us_seal_sleuths



Now I travel a lot and meet Marines all the time I will say most guys tell me they were a Sniper or Force Recon, then they ask me and I say crypto comm tech(most give me a puzzled look).Met A few Marine Snipers, A Marine that was a Green Beret, Guys that where Marines and said.. "HOOAH" to me and guys that where in the Army and said "HOORAH" to me.....LMAO There are ALL kinds of posers out there.

toby2533
05-11-2011, 20:29
With the draft ending in 74 or 73 that was around 37 years ago so add 18 to that 55 and up a lot of guys most likely we in the service. Now younger its only .08 % of the US and every time something goes good and the military gets press time that when the posers come out of the walls. I have found I quit wearing USMC stuff when I'm out traveling so I don;t have to hear someone talk there ass off. I usually don't get mad I take it as a compliment.

CrzyChinook
05-12-2011, 02:56
i just dont under stand why people have the constant need to lie about what they did in the service?? Are they not proud?? I was a wheel mech before i went Aviation and love Both and im proud that i work on a technological terror that beats the air in to submission in order to use opposing forces to stay in the air!! i had a buddy back in Germany that was a Light Wheel Mechanic in our unit...we where close and keep in touch even after he went in to Assessment..needless to say he was hard core and wanted to go delta as soo as he could..disappeared of the radar for about 10 years and i saw him couple years back stateside and he refuse's to tell me anything or if hes delta..only thing i do know is he's been at bragg every since and i do know he made assessment..and when we went out with friends he'd only say he was a mechanic.. worked on Humvee and stuff..then shoot me a look to a shut up and agree.. i asked him whats up you should be proud of what you done and your accomplishments.. he told me thanks and he appreciated how i felt but he told me that only my real friend's get to know who and what i am and no friggin stranger going to anything and that's that!!..he went on to tell me that they operate on a total different level and until you do that you wont understand....i coincided and told him ok ...
know i now why they are called the Silent Professionals ... so it really amaze me when these guys come out and brag about their exploits! and they arent even true!!

Pakman3000
05-13-2011, 08:42
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110511/ap_on_re_us/us_seal_sleuths

Here is the story of the main group that called this guy out. Here is my favorite part:
"There were about 500 SEALs that operated in Vietnam, and I've met all 20,000 of them," joked Steve Waterman, a retired Navy diver from South Thomaston, who said he has exposed more than 100 phony SEALs over the years.

Now I travel a lot and meet Marines all the time I will say most guys tell me they were a Sniper or Force Recon, then they ask me and I say crypto comm tech(most give me a puzzled look).

This was actually on CNN a few days back with Anderson Cooper. Looks like he's all over this type of thing cuz he shows a flashback of him treating this fake marine like a 4 year old:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_74d8NnZx0g

Arrrg. Why U no more uTube Links?!

jxspyder
05-13-2011, 09:06
This was actually on CNN a few days back with Anderson Cooper. Looks like he's all over this type of thing cuz he shows a flashback of him treating this fake marine like a 4 year old:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_74d8NnZx0g

Arrrg. Why U no more uTube Links?!

What a douche.

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toby2533
05-13-2011, 10:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_74d8NnZx0g

saviger
05-16-2011, 17:34
These people make me sick....

just be honest, no shame in anything you did in the service.

As far as i'm concerned if you raised your right hand and swore to defend the Constitution; your a brother in arms.