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HAVOK
08-06-2011, 11:46
Just read this....

31 Americans, 7 Afghans killed in helicopter crash
By SOLOMON MOORE - Associated Press | AP - 1 hr 9 mins ago


KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — A military helicopter was shot down in eastern Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. special operation troops, most of them from the elite Navy SEALs unit that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, along with seven Afghan commandos. It was the deadliest single incident for American forces in the decade-long war.
The Taliban claimed they downed the helicopter with rocket fire while it was taking part in a raid on a house where insurgents were gathered in the province of Wardak late Friday. It said wreckage of the craft was strewn at the scene. A senior U.S. administration official in Washington said the craft was apparently shot down by insurgents. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the crash is still being investigated.

NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there "was enemy activity in the area." But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site. It did not release details or casualty figures.

"We are in the process of accessing the facts," said U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin Brockhoff, a NATO spokesman.

One current and one former U.S. official said that the dead included more than 20 Navy SEALs from SEAL Team Six, the unit that carried out the raid in Pakistan in May that killed bin Laden. They were being flown by acrew of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because families are still being notified.



President Barack Obama mourned the deaths of the American troops, saying in a statement that the crash serves as a reminder of the "extraordinary sacrifices" being made by the U.S. military and its families. He said he also mourned "the Afghans who died alongside our troops."



The death toll would surpass the worst single day loss of life for the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan since the war began in 2001 — the June 28, 2005 downing of a military helicopter in eastern Kunar province. In that incident, 16 Navy SEALs and Army special operations troops were killed when their craft was shot down while on a mission to rescue four SEALs under attack by the Taliban. Three of the SEALs being rescued were also killed and the fourth wounded. It was the highest one-day death toll for the Navy Special Warfare personnel since World War II.







With its steep mountain ranges, providing shelter for militants armed with rocket-propelled grenade launchers, eastern Afghanistan is hazardous terrain for military aircraft. Large, slow-moving air transport carriers like the CH-47 Chinook are particularly vulnerable, often forced to ease their way through sheer valleys where insurgents can achieve more level lines of fire from mountainsides.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Saturday gave the first public word of the new crash, saying in a statement that "a NATO helicopter crashed last night in Wardak province" and that 31 American special operations troops were killed. He expressed his condolences to President Barack Obama.

The helicopter was a twin-rotor Chinook, said an official at NATO headquarters in Brussels. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he was receiving his information from an Afghan officer in Kabul.

The crash took place in the Sayd Abad district of Wardak province, said a provincial government spokesman, Shahidullah Shahid. The volatile region borders the province of Kabul where the Afghan capital is located and is known for its strong Taliban presence.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said in a statement that Taliban fighters downed the helicopter during a "heavy raid" in Sayd Abad. He said NATO attacked a house in Sayd Abad where insurgent fighters were gathering Friday night. During the battle, the fighters shot down the helicopter, killing 31 Americans and seven Afghans, he said, adding that eight insurgents were killed in the fight.



There have been at least 17 coalition and Afghan aircraft crashes in Afghanistan this year.

Most of the crashes were attributed to pilot errors, weather conditions or mechanical failures. However, the coalition has confirmed that at least one CH-47F Chinook helicopter was hit by a rocket propelled grenade on July 25. Two coalition crew members were injured in that attack.

Meanwhile, in the southern Helmand province, an Afghan government official said Saturday that NATO troops attacked a house and inadvertently killed eight members of a family, including women and children.

NATO said that Taliban fighters fired rocket propelled grenades and small arms fire at coalition troops during a patrol Friday in the Nad Ali district.

"Coalition forces responded with small arms fire and as the incident continued, an air strike was employed against the insurgent position," said Brockhoff. He added that NATO sent a delegation to meet with local leaders and investigate the incident.

Nad Ali district police chief Shadi Khan said civilians died in the bombardment but that it was unknown how many insurgents were killed.

Helmand, a Taliban stronghold, is the deadliest province in Afghanistan for international troops.

NATO has come under harsh criticism in the past for accidentally killing civilians during operations against suspected insurgents. However, civilian death tallies by the United Nations show the insurgency is responsible for most war casualties involving noncombatants.

In south Afghanistan, NATO said two coalition service member were killed, one on Friday and another on Saturday. The international alliance did not release further details.

With the casualties from the helicopter crash, the deaths bring to 365 the number of coalition troops killed this year in Afghanistan and 42 this month.

River_Rat_459
08-06-2011, 12:04
May God in Heaven bless their souls and give comfort to their families. Amen.

CrzyChinook
08-06-2011, 12:23
yup heard about it as soon as i got in today..my brother hookers...i will be praying for them!!! this is what has been released so far..
160 SOAR
A/C crashed occurred at approx 0300 hours at Tangi Joi Zareen, in the district of Sayd Abad in Wardak Province during an insurgent operation. Early reports indicate A/C was shot dow an RPG.
5 crewmen killed
22 USN SEALS killed
3 USAF FACs killed
7 Afghan SF killed
1 Afghan interpreter killed
1 dog killed

ill find out the names tomorrow on the siper net and see if any of my friends where on that bird...my community is so small i sure i knew someone!!

ASignorelli
08-06-2011, 12:58
My regards to the family and friends of all the dead.
I might get heckled for even thinking this, but anyone wonder why most of the witnesses of the Osama Raid (Seal Team 6) get killed all at the same time?
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy to shut up some info our gov was leaking, but more along the lines of do the taliban have insiders?

HAVOK
08-06-2011, 13:05
My regards to the family and friends of all the dead.
I might get heckled for even thinking this, but anyone wonder why most of the witnesses of the Osama Raid (Seal Team 6) get killed all at the same time?
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy to shut up some info our gov was leaking, but more along the lines of do the taliban have insiders?

I was thinking the same....

David_3033
08-06-2011, 17:00
This is very very sad news... :(

saviger
08-06-2011, 18:33
Let your prayers be with the family's who have lost so much today.

CrzyChinook
08-08-2011, 04:00
the info has been reased and corrected it was not a TF 160th SOAR Chinook

B/7-158 AVN (KS USAR)
#89-00175 "EXTORTION 17"
A/C crashed occurred at approx 0300 hours at Tangi Joi Zareen, in the district of Sayd Abad in Wardak Province during an insurgent operation. Early reports indicate A/C was shot down by an RPG.

NOTE: CW4 Carter and SGT Hamburger were from B/2-135 GSAB (CO & NE ARNG).

CW4 David Carter [IP]
CW2 Bryan Nichols [PC]
SPC Alexander Bennett [FE]
SGT Patrick Hamburger [FE]
SPC Spencer Duncan [G]

USN SEALs:
LCDR Jonas Kelsall
Matt Mason
CPO Matt Mills
Tommy Ratzlaff
CPO Robert J. Reeves
PO1 Michael Strange
Jon Tumilson
Aaron C. Vaughn
Kraig Vickers
13 other USN killed

TSG John W. Brown (USAF)
2 other USAF killed
7 Afghan SF killed
1 Afghan interpreter killed
1 dog killed

they will be in our prayers....

River_Rat_459
08-10-2011, 11:20
Looks like they at least got the one who fired the RPG...

Military killed Taliban who downed US helicopter (http://news.yahoo.com/military-killed-taliban-downed-us-helicopter-132740655.html)

River_Rat_459
08-10-2011, 15:18
There's a lot of other things being reported in the news today (financial crisis, rioting, etc.), but something that's being overlooked is the fact that the bodies of these brave men came home yesterday. I think the words the president spoke were very heartfelt and need to be repeated. (Below is from CBS news):

Mr. Obama paid respect to the fallen troops in remarks (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20089603-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody) Monday at the White House, saying they embody the best aspects of their country.

"We will press on, and we will succeed, but now is also a time to reflect on those we lost in the sacrifices of all who serve, as well as their families," he said. "These men and women put their lives on the line for the values that bind us together as a nation. They come from different places, and their backgrounds and beliefs reflect the rich diversity of America. But no matter what differences they might have as individuals, they serve this nation as a team. They meet their responsibilities together. And some of them, like the 30 Americans who were lost this weekend, give their lives for their country. Our responsibility is to make sure that their legacy is an America that reflects their courage, their commitment, and their sense of common purpose."

HAVOK
08-10-2011, 16:50
Well said