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Ironhide400
04-04-2012, 12:40
I was at a customer site today that was next door to a breadline for the needy. I was leaving at lunch, and was shocked when I seen the people in-line to get food. I would say of the 30 people standing there, 20 of them had their smartphones out and were killing time waiting! Not to mention I seen two people pull up in newer cars, one was a Toyota Avalon, and the other a new VW Passat! I understand there are people that actually need the assistance, but COME ON! It frustrates me to know there are so many of us working our asses off paying taxes, barely making bills......then I see this. :mad:

Rant done...:beaten:

Port66
04-04-2012, 12:43
That pisses me off so much. I am steaming

Crusty
04-04-2012, 13:46
The problem is that for years Americans have been told that they can live beyond their means. Nowadays, it is easy to walk into a store or a dealership and get a smartphone or a car. It is quite another thing to budget a sustainable lifestyle. The picture of quality in America is not like the picture of poverty in the Horn of Africa. Many poor families have xboxes, playstations, smartphones; if anything these things act as a reprieve for those who are otherwise poor.

And perhaps they have a smartphone or a car, but can they really afford it? Probably not. But again, American consumer market has told these people that they don't need to afford these things, that they can have the American Dream lifestyle right here, right now with 0 down and just 13% interest!

I'm not saying there aren't those that abuse the system. What I am saying is that it is easy to look at someone at a glance and conclude that they are not impoverished. But you don't actually know that. Just because they aren't living in a dirt shack with nothing but old torn and dirty hand-me-down clothes and no shoes with their ribs showing through what little flesh they manage to retain doesn't mean they aren't poor.

Rather it is telling of a greater problem that society and the financial markets have perpetuated for far too long.

Twizted875
04-04-2012, 13:50
I was at a customer site today that was next door to a breadline for the needy. I was leaving at lunch, and was shocked when I seen the people in-line to get food. I would say of the 30 people standing there, 20 of them had their smartphones out and were killing time waiting! Not to mention I seen two people pull up in newer cars, one was a Toyota Avalon, and the other a new VW Passat! I understand there are people that actually need the assistance, but COME ON! It frustrates me to know there are so many of us working our asses off paying taxes, barely making bills......then I see this. :mad:

Rant done...:beaten:

Back when I lived in California there was this church that had a bi-monthly food pantry for the poor Hispanic community. Routinely we would see people in new escalades Lexus's and BMW stopping to take the free food.... It made me sick.

Ironhide400
04-04-2012, 14:30
The problem is that for years Americans have been told that they can live beyond their means. Nowadays, it is easy to walk into a store or a dealership and get a smartphone or a car. It is quite another thing to budget a sustainable lifestyle. The picture of quality in America is not like the picture of poverty in the Horn of Africa. Many poor families have xboxes, playstations, smartphones; if anything these things act as a reprieve for those who are otherwise poor.

And perhaps they have a smartphone or a car, but can they really afford it? Probably not. But again, American consumer market has told these people that they don't need to afford these things, that they can have the American Dream lifestyle right here, right now with 0 down and just 13% interest!

I'm not saying there aren't those that abuse the system. What I am saying is that it is easy to look at someone at a glance and conclude that they are not impoverished. But you don't actually know that. Just because they aren't living in a dirt shack with nothing but old torn and dirty hand-me-down clothes and no shoes with their ribs showing through what little flesh they manage to retain doesn't mean they aren't poor.

Rather it is telling of a greater problem that society and the financial markets have perpetuated for far too long.

I see your point Cru. I am sure most of them are living in debt, and living WAY beyond their means. I guess my point is that they can somehow come up with the money to pay a monthly cell bill or car bill, but they can't prioritize money for FOOD? That is just f'd up in my book. :confused:

And yes, that is assuming they ARE paying their cell bill since they are using it....lol!

Crusty
04-04-2012, 16:35
I see your point Cru. I am sure most of them are living in debt, and living WAY beyond their means. I guess my point is that they can somehow come up with the money to pay a monthly cell bill or car bill, but they can't prioritize money for FOOD? That is just f'd up in my book. :confused:

And yes, that is assuming they ARE paying their cell bill since they are using it....lol!

Oh I think it is fucked up. But I think it is important to note that most of these people are probably unintelligent, uneducated people who don't know better. Because then the solution can be focused on education rather than just saying, "if you can pay your cell bill you can buy food. So food stamps denied." The latter isn't a real solution and inevitably it comes back to bite society in the ass more later. We need to focus on education and chip away at the mentality that "if you can't pay for it, buy it on credit."

smoke
04-04-2012, 16:51
1 of the reasons I don't have a smartphone myself.
1) don't need it
2) can't really afford it
3) have better things to spend my money on.. ie.. food for my 4 year old.

Its tough when you a married dad, and you spouse hasn't been able to find work.. Living off 1 paycheck, when you expectation of life, is 1 level, and by chance, you are forced to live at a lower level..

Its shitty but true..

Port66
04-04-2012, 17:38
I only have my smartphone cause my work provides it. I have had to make sacrifices and some weeks not eat so my 4 yr old could, I have turned it around the last yr but not all have been able to with this economy


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A-25TH-ID-VET
04-05-2012, 08:10
I was at a customer site today that was next door to a breadline for the needy. I was leaving at lunch, and was shocked when I seen the people in-line to get food. I would say of the 30 people standing there, 20 of them had their smartphones out and were killing time waiting! Not to mention I seen two people pull up in newer cars, one was a Toyota Avalon, and the other a new VW Passat! I understand there are people that actually need the assistance, but COME ON! It frustrates me to know there are so many of us working our asses off paying taxes, barely making bills......then I see this. :mad:

Rant done...:beaten:FREE Loaders just piss me off. There some out there that need the help and get turned away but, these F'ING free loaders use the hell out of people and the system. I would love to take a few out!!!!!!! :D



The problem is that for years Americans have been told that they can live beyond their means. Nowadays, it is easy to walk into a store or a dealership and get a smartphone or a car.Please tell me where i can get a new vehicle easily.... They always too much down. I can't even get a contract for a phone because they want money upfront so, I get stuck with the pre paid shit. I don't even want a smart phone all I like is a simple phone.

Rickety Rob
04-05-2012, 08:35
Dude, I see it all the time here in Baltimore. People would rather buy the nice cars, wear the nice clothes and blow their money out doing the night scene but when it comes to having a decent place to live or to put food in theirs along with their child's belly. They don't do it. So sad people would rather look the part than play it.