[PC] Training Courses [Archive] - US Military Gamers

Eiaelis

05-03-2012, 20:19

Just wanted to get some idea of how people would feel about being taught the different aspects (at a most basic level) of EVE. I'm not sure how we would be able to organize these as of yet, but I do believe that it would be good to have a basic understanding of EVE so that our industrial pilots will understand combat and our combat will understand industrial pilots. Some might say this suggestion would be lame or a waste of time, I believe it would make for better cohesion in the corp as of a better understanding of what the different pilots do and how each would be able to support each other and provide a little assistance possibly. Also this would help Pilots be less reliant in a "What should I train for?" type of way and instead be able to apply that to "What can I do that would help better the corp?" If we can instruct and create an understanding of the vast universe of EVE I believe our pilots would be more able to grow and become better pilots themselves. Just wanted to see how you guys would feel about this

ApollosArrow89

05-03-2012, 20:50

I actually agree with this. With our coalition/alliance with Flaming Dagger, we need to start diversing ourselves from just miners to jack of all trades. Granted with the jack of all trades aspect of EVE ur not focusing on one set of skills but a variety. Take this example, we are in a fleet for pvp and run into a good sized enemy fleet and they have a few frigates with them. Our BSs can't hit them, joe just trained in crusiers and he's a miner. Joe jumps into said crusier and joins the fleet to take care of the frigs.

So I agree we need a training program. It would help the corp and give the guys the ability to diversify themselves. So this brings up the point of having a corp meeting. So we can dicuss how to implement this into our corp.

Eiaelis

05-03-2012, 21:24

I can see the Jack of all trades approach becoming cumbersome to the corp, while this would work I was thinking that maybe just some type of informational while being able to help new people to certain areas it may also help to show where production would be able to help our combat and or mission runners. Also I believe that mission runners would also benefit from understanding how the industrial side of the game works, not only valuing our mining/production divisions but also knowing what loot could be used by them and figuring out a fair market value for the products. Also teaching combat pilots about Meta levels and how to know what ships are used for what and which ship would work better with what kind of tanking and what kind of missiles or charges or weapons for that matter are best for their race and particular ships.

Guerrillaism

05-04-2012, 07:05

I also agree with this idea. Eve has so many aspects of game play that many may not know in which direction to go or what options are available. This definitely sets this game apart from the more linear cookie cutter mmo's out there.

I think the first question that needs to be asked is, "What are the future objectives of our corps?" (POS? WH-Space? Null Sec? Low Sec? High Sec? Mission Running? Mining OPs? etc...)

PVE and PVP intertwine at some point depending on what we are doing and where we are doing it.

This link http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ is a "What to do in EVE Online" chart which is a good reference of ideas to pilots new and old.

ApollosArrow89

05-04-2012, 11:23

I think the first question that needs to be asked is, "What are the future objectives of our corps?" (POS? WH-Space? Null Sec? Low Sec? High Sec? Mission Running? Mining OPs? etc...)

PVE and PVP intertwine at some point depending on what we are doing and where we are doing it.

To answer ur question, our main goal is to setup a POS and base of Operations in Low Sec. Once we get setup in low sec we will begin ops in low sec until we get comfortable then we will try to move out to null sec. But as of right now we are setting up more mining ops and lvl 4 ops.

Guerrillaism

05-04-2012, 12:04

To answer ur question, our main goal is to setup a POS and base of Operations in Low Sec. Once we get setup in low sec we will begin ops in low sec until we get comfortable then we will try to move out to null sec. But as of right now we are setting up more mining ops and lvl 4 ops.

Sounds good to me. Sign me up for the class on flying pods.;)

DOCCUPCAKE

05-04-2012, 12:21

I def agree w that. I'm more than an orca or miner. I skilled up through bs so what ever mission or op we run I can flip to. My biggest thing I notice is people forget to focus on their turrets specialization.

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Timmy_2_Tones

05-05-2012, 00:46

I agree with the training, my only issue is how are we going to ensure that everyone will have the ability to fit a Megathron for PVP, as well as an Orca for mining ops (LOOSE EXAMPLES) I just think we should churn this around a little and come up with a solid plan. Other than that I am in full support.

ZuluNiner

06-08-2012, 11:23

Since we're reorganizing, I was wondering if we might want to have a training corp.

jxspyder

06-08-2012, 13:23

ZuluNiner

06-08-2012, 14:27

Set up a training schedule on Evemon or Evehq, and request people train those skills?

You'd have to have a number of them. A toon that's never going to be a hauler has no use for Industrial V, for instance, but anybody who wants to be able to drive a freighter has to have it.

Shield tankers and armor tankers have diverging skillsets, as well.

Etc.

RogueScot

06-08-2012, 14:34

I'd be down with any training I can get with me being a noob.

jxspyder

06-08-2012, 14:44

You'd have to have a number of them. A toon that's never going to be a hauler has no use for Industrial V, for instance, but anybody who wants to be able to drive a freighter has to have it.

Shield tankers and armor tankers have diverging skillsets, as well.

Etc.

Exactly. Specific skill queue's targeted towards specific ship/fit sets. All of which would be set for specific tasks within different divisions.

For that matter, even if you plan on being a permanent miner/industrialist, the ten days or so it'll take you to train a tackler for PvP assistance isn't going to break you. Likewise to train up to a cruiser level mining rig for combat focused players.

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jxspyder

06-08-2012, 14:46

I'd be down with any training I can get with me being a noob.

First question is what do you want to do? Mining/Combat/Industrial/Industrial/Distribution......pick a path you want to take. From there, setting up a training schedule to cover where you want to go is relatively easy. I'd suggest EveMon or EveHQ as downloads to get, though. They make it pretty damn easy.

RogueScot

06-08-2012, 23:50

First question is what do you want to do? Mining/Combat/Industrial/Industrial/Distribution......pick a path you want to take. From there, setting up a training schedule to cover where you want to go is relatively easy. I'd suggest EveMon or EveHQ as downloads to get, though. They make it pretty damn easy.

Cool. But, I can't use either tool since I am on a Mac. I may have to set up a Windows client to be able to use them.

jxspyder

06-09-2012, 11:30

Cool. But, I can't use either tool since I am on a Mac. I may have to set up a Windows client to be able to use them.

Check the resources thread, I linked a couple of ios options I found through my google-fu.

HAVOK

06-09-2012, 11:53

jxspyder

06-09-2012, 12:18

Does our Corp lean towards a specific field already? i.e. Mining, Combat, Piracy etc.? When I made my character I chose the Ancestry and Education that geared him towards an Engineering application. Just wondering if there's like a bunch like this or not.

Nope, it's relatively open, and we're setting it up so that you can fit in regardless of what you choose to go with. There will be divisions that support all gameplay types, which will fit within the corp as a whole.

ApollosArrow89

06-09-2012, 13:05

What Dave said is true, our corp is well rounded and we are not leaning towards one specific trade, if i must say we are more towards Indy than anything else but we have so many guys that are different areas of the game we are a well round corp. So u will fit in perfectly.

HAVOK

06-09-2012, 13:53

Ok cool, how do I apply? I can't seem to find us in the Corp menus...

ApollosArrow89

06-09-2012, 14:03

Go to ur people and places menu and select Corporation, then type in United States MIlitary Gamers Corp and we should pop up that way. U will need to be docked in station and when u have our corp page up select the Apply to Join on the bottom of the page.

ZuluNiner

06-09-2012, 15:05

Go to people & places, type usmg in the search box, hit enter.

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KopfeJager

06-09-2012, 18:22

I can give a course on Frigates and integrated EWAR ops. My strengths are in Stealth Bombers and bombing runs and fleet support ECM boats such as Falcons, Huggins, Rapiers....etc also, the art of the HOT DROP! Here's some stuff from my "old command..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCIdjuziibo

Timmy_2_Tones

06-09-2012, 19:17

The more I look at this thread the more I want to do something. So, I am going to teach anyone that wants to learn about tactics and tactical preparation. I am probably not the best at PVP, but if it comes to not being found, especially while uncloaked, I am your man.

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RighteousKil187

06-09-2012, 19:50

I'm petty sure this doesn't pertain to training but during the tutorial it talked about your skills and having a 24 hour max. If you end up selecting 3 skills and it overlaps that 24 hrs to let's say 1d 8hr will it carry over?

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ZuluNiner

06-09-2012, 20:01

Yes. The last skill in your queue has to begin within 24 hours.

Later on you'll have skill levels that take days or weeks to train.

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jxspyder

06-09-2012, 22:02

Yes, like Zulu said. As long as your last skill starts within the 24 hours, you're good to have it wrap over. You can have a 10 day + queue, and be fine.

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HAVOK

06-09-2012, 23:16

jxspyder

06-09-2012, 23:22

Ok I'm stuck. I'm doing the 10th military mission and I've lost 5 frigates to this prick and his fucking stasis bubble and support ships. if it weren't for the isk Dave gave me, I'd be proper fucked. Still, I don't know what to do. They gave me a Merlin, but I can't pilot it..WTF?

Train your frigate skill. If you right click and click "show info", then go to prerequisites.

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Timmy_2_Tones

06-09-2012, 23:23

Ok I'm stuck. I'm doing the 10th military mission and I've lost 5 frigates to this prick and his fucking stasis bubble and support ships. if it weren't for the isk Dave gave me, I'd be proper fucked. Still, I don't know what to do. They gave me a Merlin, but I can't pilot it..WTF?

If you are still having issues with this mission, you should fleet up with someone to finish it. If I am online just send me a message and I will fly out to help you.

HAVOK

06-09-2012, 23:26

Train your frigate skill. If you right click and click "show info", then go to prerequisites.

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That's currently training. I was thinking of going in there with a fuckin Destroyer......

Timmy_2_Tones

06-09-2012, 23:59

That's currently training. I was thinking of going in there with a fuckin Destroyer......

I would recommend that. Destroyers are boss.

jxspyder

06-10-2012, 00:29

That's currently training. I was thinking of going in there with a fuckin Destroyer......

That's probably why advanced combat gives you one.

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ApollosArrow89

06-10-2012, 08:10

That's currently training. I was thinking of going in there with a fuckin Destroyer......

There u go, the joys of EVE. If u die and die again in a mission, get a bigger ship to blow that guy the fuck up.

ZuluNiner

06-10-2012, 08:15

There u go, the joys of EVE. If u die and die again in a mission, get a bigger ship to blow that guy the fuck up.

Or bring friends to help.

There is actually a level 1 storyline mission that was supposed to be specifically designed for you to bring in friends to help on a couple of the missions. It can be done solo (I did), but not by a 1-week noob w/ no ISK and limited skills. Actually, once you finish the basic tutorial missions and move to our corp system, I recommend you do the SoE epic storyline. Just make sure you have a couple of us on standby for when you get to the missions that your new character will need help with. (Or you can get other noobs that are working the arc to help with it, but you'll have to run the mission multiple times, once for each participant.)

HAVOK

06-10-2012, 09:53

This. Shit. Right. Here. Is the best game I've ever played.

I trained up to pilot a Destroyer class ship, fitted it with 4 125mm rail guns, set my orbit to 20km and sat back and picked all those bastards off. The support ships got in close on me, but I had a spare Rocket Launcher with Nova Rockets for that ass.
All this wouldn't have been possible were it not for my generous benefactor! Thanks man!

RogueScot

06-10-2012, 18:34

I am four missions from completing the tutorials and moving to corp space Steel, I'll join up with you for some missions, if you wish.

obtainedpilot

06-10-2012, 19:21

Wait until you get to 75 to 100km the farthest I got was 150 max targeting range ^^

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HAVOK

06-10-2012, 19:41

I am four missions from completing the tutorials and moving to corp space Steel, I'll join up with you for some missions, if you wish.

Sweet! My toons name is Jace Munroe

HAVOK

06-10-2012, 19:43

I'll be getting on just to queue up some training skillbooks. I won't be online tonight to play though cause I need to spend some time with my wife before she clubs me to death lol

HAVOK

06-11-2012, 16:25

FUCK! I went and left for work without queuing training to last while I'm gone, now my training queue is inactive!

Port66

06-11-2012, 16:32

FUCK! I went and left for work without queuing training to last while I'm gone, now my training queue is inactive!

Is there a phone app for training

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ZuluNiner

06-11-2012, 16:54

Is there a phone app for training

Nope. 3rd party apps aren't allowed to modify the sandbox.

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roaland

06-11-2012, 17:43

U can use apps to monitor ur eve toon, but sadly, not set ur training quo....but there great tools for planing ahead lol

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Port66

06-11-2012, 18:08

U can use apps to monitor ur eve toon, but sadly, not set ur training quo....but there great tools for planing ahead lol

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OK at least i have it loaded at work already. That's where I started today. from the video card specs I'm concerned my net book or laptop may not be able to render it. I will try later

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roaland

06-11-2012, 18:15

OK at least i have it loaded at work already. That's where I started today. from the video card specs I'm concerned my net book or laptop may not be able to render it. I will try later

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I use my crapy laptop, sure I gotta turn the graphics down but its got one of them integrated video cards, can't remember exactly what it is, but its an ATI Mobile version. I should really stop being lazy and just throw a comp together lol

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Port66

06-11-2012, 18:24

I use my crapy laptop, sure I gotta turn the graphics down but its got one of them integrated video cards, can't remember exactly what it is, but its an ATI Mobile version. I should really stop being lazy and just throw a comp together lol

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Yeah. All mine are work owned by the school district but I can bring home another PC from work I have some speedy i5's just sitting in the Closet. I have a cheap byte speed netbook. Too bad ipad won't run it I have those.

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DOCCUPCAKE

06-11-2012, 19:41

Steel I just wake up 10 mins early to always que my stuff for the day just a habit I got into-

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HAVOK

06-11-2012, 19:47

Steel I just wake up 10 mins early to always que my stuff for the day just a habit I got into-

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Yea..."waking up" is kinda my Kryptonite....

Timmy_2_Tones

06-11-2012, 21:30

Well it looks like you learned a valuable lesson here.

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HAVOK

06-11-2012, 22:45

Well it looks like you learned a valuable lesson here.

A daily dose of Crazy from my hate machine.
Indeed....

TheLastSparton

06-18-2012, 16:44

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page

This site is pretty helpful in getting some basic information.

Port66

06-18-2012, 18:47

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page

This site is pretty helpful in getting some basic information.

Is that for real ? I am very interested if it's real. And free. Those are people who really love the game.

ZuluNiner

06-18-2012, 20:31

Is that for real ?

Yes, it's for real. I've learned a lot from that site in the several weeks I've been playing.

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Port66

06-19-2012, 09:54

Yes, it's for real. I've learned a lot from that site in the several weeks I've been playing.

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ok So you just use the info on the site? I was going thru their process and it wants me to apply to join their corp.

roaland

06-19-2012, 10:03

ok So you just use the info on the site? I was going thru their process and it wants me to apply to join their corp.

U can just download the classes, they are audio classes, and just listen to them while ur ingame. Good stuff :)

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ZuluNiner

06-19-2012, 10:04

ok So you just use the info on the site? I was going thru their process and it wants me to apply to join their corp.

Yes, I just reference all of the material that's published on the site. I considered actually joining the corp for awhile before I encountered USMG, but never did. Read through some of the restrictions they place on their members before you jump corp. And be aware that they get wardecced quite a bit from people just wanting to be asses and get free pot-shots at noobs.

Also, when I looked at their calendar, most of the scheduled "classes" I was interested in were scheduled at times that just weren't feasible for me. Most, if not all, of the lesson plans are posted on the site with enough detail to get the main points of the lessons. And they have a ton of good reference material on the site that's available to anyone, not just members.

The biggest advantage that you might get, IMHO, is that they've recently implemented a ship replacement program. As long as you're following the rules and engaged in a UNI op/class, they'll replace any T1 frigate & mods you lose in a skirmish. Hopefully, though, USMG will soon have the kind of bank that it takes to support that sort of thing for our members.

Port66

06-19-2012, 10:08

Yes, I just reference all of the material that's published on the site. I considered actually joining the corp for awhile before I encountered USMG, but never did. Read through some of the restrictions they place on their members before you jump corp. And be aware that they get wardecced quite a bit from people just wanting to be asses and get free pot-shots at noobs.

Also, when I looked at their calendar, most of the scheduled "classes" I was interested in were scheduled at times that just weren't feasible for me. Most, if not all, of the lesson plans are posted on the site with enough detail to get the main points of the lessons. And they have a ton of good reference material on the site that's available to anyone, not just members.

The biggest advantage that you might get, IMHO, is that they've recently implemented a ship replacement program. As long as you're following the rules and engaged in a UNI op/class, they'll replace any T1 frigate & mods you lose in a skirmish. Hopefully, though, USMG will soon have the kind of bank that it takes to support that sort of thing for our members.

nice . yeah I plan to watch some of their videos tonight

TheLastSparton

06-19-2012, 10:56

ok So you just use the info on the site? I was going thru their process and it wants me to apply to join their corp.

Yea you should be able to search almost anything and there will be an article on it. If that doesn't help feel free to ask me and I'll try to answer any questions as best I can.

KopfeJager

06-19-2012, 14:27

Most of the EVE UNI stuff is also in youtube

KopfeJager

07-02-2012, 11:12

Let me know if you can't access these.

Loyalty Points for Nexus Chips-Basic
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?d5n52vj9bgxz4vl

R&D for Datacores-Basic
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?fan8acpd776t5q0

Timmy_2_Tones

07-02-2012, 13:56