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DOCCUPCAKE
07-11-2012, 15:45
Ok I hope this isn't a bad topic. I have been interested in going learning etc. but I don't know what lodges or who to talk to. I know other people in it. If anyone has any light etc please share-
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KaNtSt0PMeH
07-11-2012, 15:48
Super secret society man lol.... shits too National Treasure-y for me.
I have been in big brawls with them then other places they are good guys, but yes secretive
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ApollosArrow89
07-11-2012, 16:11
There is a lodge near my home but i dont go around there unless u know some members. Like the others the group is very servretive and they dont like outsiders alot near their joints.
jxspyder
07-11-2012, 17:12
Ok I hope this isn't a bad topic. I have been interested in going learning etc. but I don't know what lodges or who to talk to. I know other people in it. If anyone has any light etc please share-
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I've always been interested, but have never known someone who had actual knowledge.
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toby2533
07-11-2012, 19:12
was asked to join until they found out I was baptized as a catholic, that a no go in there minds.
KaNtSt0PMeH
07-11-2012, 19:45
I know we have a member who is pretty deep in the stuff. I can't remember who it was though.
Specops03SS
07-11-2012, 20:26
Ive always been curious about them.
SAPPER USMG
07-11-2012, 20:27
That stuff runs deep in my mother's family, but I don't know Jack about it. Too much of a black sheep lol...
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KaNtSt0PMeH
07-11-2012, 21:44
I know quite a bit about them contrary to my first post. Not really my style. I did a couple papers on them, the Scottish Rite, and the Illuminati in College. Its scary so I refrain lol
RogueScot
07-11-2012, 21:50
I have several friends who are Masons. Nothing strange or unusual about them. There are two major paths. Scottish Rite and York Rite. Scottish Rite incorporates all religions and York Rite is purely Christian. A lot of people have been Masons including some famous individuals including the late Ernest Borgnine. Check out http://scottishrite.org and http://www.yorkrite.com for more information.
I've always been interested in them since they have such strong Scottish ties (I'm Scottish), but here in New York you can't ask about them without being considered A) a nutcase or B) a spy for the media.
DOCCUPCAKE
07-12-2012, 00:14
Ty all for good info :) I have made a contact and will see what's up.
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Recently within the last couple of years, some Lodges have had a more 'open door' pollicy when it comes to aquiring new members. While I'm not a mason myself, it couldn't hurt to find a nearby lodge and give them a call, their in the phonebook in most areas.
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Mekanikol
07-12-2012, 05:29
I just started on my degree work a couple of months ago. What state are you in?
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Rickety Rob
07-12-2012, 05:49
was asked to join until they found out I was baptized as a catholic, that a no go in there minds.
Fuck them all then...BOOM!
RogueScot
07-12-2012, 06:35
I've always been interested in them since they have such strong Scottish ties (I'm Scottish), but here in New York you can't ask about them without being considered A) a nutcase or B) a spy for the media.
That's kind of weird since I believe they can't recruit and the only way to get in is if you ask.
DOCCUPCAKE
07-12-2012, 07:41
I'm in California sandiego area
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Mekanikol
07-12-2012, 08:06
I've already seen some well intentioned,albeit incorrect information in this forum. The best thing to do is get into it and see for yourself. There is nothing nefarious about the masons. I have many friends and family who are masons as well.
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DOCCUPCAKE
07-12-2012, 08:19
Well I found a lodge but no young guys in it :( so I might look towards San Diego ones as there are more military members in it. I guess I will just show up at a meeting? On the web page it says visitors welcome, coat and tie. :)
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Mekanikol
07-12-2012, 10:04
They should have contact info on their website. Usually one of the lodge officers numbers. Best bet is to give them a call ahead of time but if the website says visitors are welcome then by all means show up and ask some questions. They should be happy to help you!
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sirjohnathon
07-12-2012, 10:41
Doc, I am a Master Mason, 32 degree Scottish Rite, and an Order of the Temple in York Rite. Send me a message and I will be happy to help you.
iamthesgt
07-12-2012, 11:23
Super secret society man lol.... shits too National Treasure-y for me.
What? You don't want to find the Templar treasure?
ZuluNiner
07-13-2012, 07:25
I've already seen some well intentioned,albeit incorrect information in this forum. The best thing to do is get into it and see for yourself. There is nothing nefarious about the masons.
I concur with this statement. Errr, series of statements.
ZuluNiner
07-13-2012, 07:29
was asked to join until they found out I was baptized as a catholic, that a no go in there minds.
That's BS, although you might find that the Catholic Church doesn't like their members to be freemasons. They go back-and-forth on it almost every time there's a new pope.
But if there's a Lodge out there that rejected you because you're catholic, there's a serious problem in that Lodge.
ZuluNiner
07-13-2012, 07:35
Super secret society man lol.... shits too National Treasure-y for me.
Really? People still think that?
There's a sign on the front of my Lodge that identifies it as a Masonic Lodge. I wear a ring, in public, that identifies me as a Master Mason.
Secret societies, by definition, attempt to hide their existence from the world. Freemasonry is so far from being a secret society that I find it laughable that anyone still thinks of it that way.
Freemasonry is no more secretive than any college fraternity or privately owned business. There are simply some things that nobody outside the organization should know.
KopfeJager
07-13-2012, 07:52
My understanding is that they make good men better.....
Really? People still think that?
There's a sign on the front of my Lodge that identifies it as a Masonic Lodge. I wear a ring, in public, that identifies me as a Master Mason.
Secret societies, by definition, attempt to hide their existence from the world. Freemasonry is so far from being a secret society that I find it laughable that anyone still thinks of it that way.
Freemasonry is no more secretive than any college fraternity or privately owned business. There are simply some things that nobody outside the organization should know.
Oh yea. People still think that. Anytime you have an organization that has had this much publicity AND it being a somewhat secretive society, people are gonna get the wrong idea. I've been interested in the Masons for years. I may have to do some more extensive research on joining. I can tell you for a fact that here in NY, if your a Mason, people think your part of the Illuminati. No joke.
We had issues on army bases in germany with masons and their elitist attitude. They were an all black group and would try pushing all the regular folks out of the clubs they liked. I am not racist and they were ok with me since I grew up with a could of em. But still there were altercations.
I am guessing that they were a different kind of mason. I think what people don't know they say is a conspiracy or illuminati, and the best way I learned to not be noticed is to be not hidden and blend in. I know groups that have public fronts and a secretive side. I'm not saying the masons are that way, but some aspects of their past we don't know, but it seems they helped america strengthen.so I'm good with them haha
MikaelTyson
07-13-2012, 16:18
We had issues on army bases in germany with masons and their elitist attitude. They were an all black group and would try pushing all the regular folks out of the clubs they liked. I am not racist and they were ok with me since I grew up with a could of em. But still there were altercations.
I am guessing that they were a different kind of mason. I think what people don't know they say is a conspiracy or illuminati, and the best way I learned to not be noticed is to be not hidden and blend in. I know groups that have public fronts and a secretive side. I'm not saying the masons are that way, but some aspects of their past we don't know, but it seems they helped america strengthen.so I'm good with them haha
Everyone in the top 3 in my unit is a mason. Getting a promotion past e6 is damn near impossible unless you are one of them.
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KaNtSt0PMeH
07-13-2012, 16:22
They are conveniently linked to many people in our chain of command. No real misconception about it.
sirjohnathon
07-13-2012, 18:28
Teddi,
There are two types of Masonic organizations (or at least was until recently). There were the F&AM and Prince Hall. F&AM stood for "Free and Accepted Masons". They were the "old order". Prince Hall was started within after the Civil War (if memory serves me correctly), by a man named appropriately enough "Prince Hall". At the time, the only members accepted into PH were of African decent. They were considered a rogue group which did not follow the same principals of F&AM. The history available to the public is a little vague, but it is a fascinating story non-the-less. Based on your description, I would say the guys you described were PH.
Ceras,
While there are certain benefits where members do "take care of each other", it isn't really any different than an Admiral helping those that went to the same school he did, or enjoys the same hobbies.
Only difference is we get the super secret key to Templar treasure we can all borrow from as needed. :pound:
Teddi,
There are two types of Masonic organizations (or at least was until recently). There were the F&AM and Prince Hall. F&AM stood for "Free and Accepted Masons". They were the "old order". Prince Hall was started within after the Civil War (if memory serves me correctly), by a man named appropriately enough "Prince Hall". At the time, the only members accepted into PH were of African decent. They were considered a rogue group which did not follow the same principals of F&AM. The history available to the public is a little vague, but it is a fascinating story non-the-less. Based on your description, I would say the guys you described were PH.
Ceras,
While there are certain benefits where members do "take care of each other", it isn't really any different than an Admiral helping those that went to the same school he did, or enjoys the same hobbies.
Only difference is we get the super secret key to Templar treasure we can all borrow from as needed. :pound:
Awesome thanks for the info. And yeah I had a captain and a lt colonel that watched out for me cause we were in the same high school.
MikaelTyson
07-14-2012, 11:43
Teddi,
There are two types of Masonic organizations (or at least was until recently). There were the F&AM and Prince Hall. F&AM stood for "Free and Accepted Masons". They were the "old order". Prince Hall was started within after the Civil War (if memory serves me correctly), by a man named appropriately enough "Prince Hall". At the time, the only members accepted into PH were of African decent. They were considered a rogue group which did not follow the same principals of F&AM. The history available to the public is a little vague, but it is a fascinating story non-the-less. Based on your description, I would say the guys you described were PH.
Ceras,
While there are certain benefits where members do "take care of each other", it isn't really any different than an Admiral helping those that went to the same school he did, or enjoys the same hobbies.
Only difference is we get the super secret key to Templar treasure we can all borrow from as needed. :pound:
I suppose that is true haha. I just butt heads with my CMSGT a lot so maybe that left a bad taste in my mouth.
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bulletmagnet
07-17-2012, 05:42
I know a place here that is a Masonic Lodge, and makes no attempt to hide it either as it says so
on a brass plaque outside. Have never been inside but I know people that have.
ZuluNiner
07-17-2012, 08:18
I know a place here that is a Masonic Lodge, and makes no attempt to hide it either as it says so
on a brass plaque outside. Have never been inside but I know people that have.
Most lodges have signage that says when they hold their meetings, and most lodges have a meal before the meeting. If their meeting times aren't on the sign, check the state web site and it should have a list of all lodges and when they meet. (Search for Grand Lodge of Xxx, where Xxx is your state.) If you want to know more about freemasonry, stop in, have a meal, and talk to them. They should be more than willing to have a couple of guys sit and talk to you awhile, and you'll probably be surprised at how much they can and will tell you about the organization.
There are only a few lodges I'm aware of that don't generally allow just anyone to come visit. It's generally frowned on, but those few have good reasons.
SSG_DrunkEagle
07-17-2012, 09:44
Ok I hope this isn't a bad topic. I have been interested in going learning etc. but I don't know what lodges or who to talk to. I know other people in it. If anyone has any light etc please share-
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I am going to be doing my degrees soon in august
Mekanikol
07-17-2012, 10:15
Awesome!
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