View Full Version : Gun Control and the Media Fenzy
iCharlieF0xtr0t
12-21-2012, 13:31
Here's a video guys... I'd like to say first off that my thoughts and prayers are with the families of the sandy hook shooting and that god grants them the strength to push on but this has gotten to become out of hand, Every single day the top stories on msn, aol, cnn, fox, everything is shootings, Gun Ban, Twisted Logic, its out of control. Every gun owner in America is being demonized right now, and you have the NRA CEO getting death threats and even youtube channels who have gun channels getting there family lives threatened. You Also have Dicks, Walmart, Sports Authority, all are pulling weapons off the shelves and were weeks away from a total gun ban. But I want to hear your guys opinions becuase this is bull shit. I read last night on cnn, one of the top stories were Should America be more like scandanavia... WTF America Shouls be America straight and simple... Im seriously on the edge right now because its so obvious what is going on and its people control, they cant get away with what there trying to do with an armed populous and thats the real agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2ngnikMT1Y
jxspyder
12-21-2012, 14:18
Dicks didn't pull their guns, because I bought one from there yesterday.
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I for one think the disarmament of our nations citizens is a drastic, unnecessary and extremist measure taken by a Govt. who doesn't know what to do and doesn't know what's right for its people. With every horrible shooting like this there are a handful more out there that are prevented by armed citizens with legal rights to carry. This course of action is folly and it may set forth a wave of discontent that could very well end our nations comfort in the the fact that our Govt. wishes to protect us and seeks more to control us.
I was told many years ago by an Australian Trooper, while on deployment in Iraq, that every nation has the goal of disarming its citizens. I didn't believe that. I argued with the Soldier (who's Govt. did the same with disastrous results) that our Govt. was different. That we believed in the Freedoms our Fore Fathers fought so hard for....now, it seems, that they've forgotten those Freedoms.
iamthesgt
12-21-2012, 15:13
Dicks didn't pull their guns, because I bought one from there yesterday.
Some of them pulled their ARs, but to my knowledge all of them still have at least some guns.
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comanche_warior
12-21-2012, 16:38
I have a feeling as soon as the government tries to take your gun away there will be a civil war, I dont want it to see it get to that but there is no way in hell I will silently give up my guns. I will build a false bottom in my basement and hide them before I give them up. I know that Bass Pro Shops and Cabelas isnt selling any AR's in Connecticut, I watched the NRA's press statement today and I totally agree with what he said about the media and I hate to say it but the same with movies and video games. I also agree with what he said about having armed guards at schools but we dont have to have them parading around the schools either and freaking out the kids. I dont like going into a movie theatres and other places that I enjoy these days and worry about somebody shooting up the place until I feel safe I will stay legally armed until I feel safe again.
iamthesgt
12-21-2012, 16:44
I have a feeling as soon as the government tries to take your gun away there will be a civil war, I dont want it to see it get to that but there is no way in hell I will silently give up my guns. I will build a false bottom in my basement and hide them before I give them up. I know that Bass Pro Shops and Cabelas isnt selling any AR's in Connecticut, I watched the NRA's press statement today and I totally agree with what he said about the media and I hate to say it but the same with movies and video games. I also agree with what he said about having armed guards at schools but we dont have to have them parading around the schools either and freaking out the kids. I dont like going into a movie theatres and other places that I enjoy these days and worry about somebody shooting up the place until I feel safe I will stay legally armed until I feel safe again.
Nope. They won't take all the guns at once-they're not that stupid. It will be gradual, incremental bannings, then confiscations, and there's not enough who are willing to fight it. I carry everywhere I go now, more so than before, but we will see a continual degradation of our gun rights, and all will be permanent-no sunset provisions this time.
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comanche_warior
12-21-2012, 17:39
Nope. They won't take all the guns at once-they're not that stupid. It will be gradual, incremental bannings, then confiscations, and there's not enough who are willing to fight it. I carry everywhere I go now, more so than before, but we will see a continual degradation of our gun rights, and all will be permanent-no sunset provisions this time.
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I dont think they will get away with a ban period look what happened in DC after they banned handguns it was deemed unconstitutional. I think if they do any type of confiscation there will be a backlash from the people. But then again we wont know what will happen until it happens. I am not worrying about it going in affect in January thats too soon to make it loop hole free like they are sayinv they will make it.
toby2533
12-22-2012, 06:58
everyone calm down, first off if any gun laws are written in it will take time for them to come on the books at least late 2013 if not longer )I think end of 2014). Again this could have been all adverted if the NRA would have just come out and said large capacity clips need to go or regulated. But no they hid in the board rooms of major gun makers and then come up with the ides to do a media blitz, don't think for a sec they even care anymore about the indivuidal gun owner they now are working for gun makers, doing this they are going to make big gun sales by scaring everyone, with in the last week assault rifles have increase by $300 dollars, playing on the gun owners who will run out to by something that might not even get regulated. Now about the NRA response what are they thinking most schools have a budget negative and teachers have been given pink slips, so now they want school to hire armed guards where this money going to come from? For the parents out there think how many schools make up your district and add 2 pre school this would lead to higher school taxes. Now they are also attacking video game makers for the violent FPS we all love to play.
iCharlieF0xtr0t
12-22-2012, 23:31
everyone calm down, first off if any gun laws are written in it will take time for them to come on the books at least late 2013 if not longer )I think end of 2014). Again this could have been all adverted if the NRA would have just come out and said large capacity clips need to go or regulated. But no they hid in the board rooms of major gun makers and then come up with the ides to do a media blitz, don't think for a sec they even care anymore about the indivuidal gun owner they now are working for gun makers, doing this they are going to make big gun sales by scaring everyone, with in the last week assault rifles have increase by $300 dollars, playing on the gun owners who will run out to by something that might not even get regulated. Now about the NRA response what are they thinking most schools have a budget negative and teachers have been given pink slips, so now they want school to hire armed guards where this money going to come from? For the parents out there think how many schools make up your district and add 2 pre school this would lead to higher school taxes. Now they are also attacking video game makers for the violent FPS we all love to play.
.. I think Im just going to live in a hole or something.
Your 100% right btw
Twizted875
12-23-2012, 07:23
Anyone know a good place to buy some pmags before they're banned? Amazon has none and eBay is price gouging
iamthesgt
12-23-2012, 12:13
Anyone know a good place to buy some pmags before they're banned? Amazon has none and eBay is price gouging
Nope. Everyone's sold out. There are literally none in the entire city. At one gun store (which is known for being high-priced) that stocks probably 100 semi-auto rifles, they are completely out. Every long gun capable of accepting a magazine is out. The last one was a tricked-out AR running about $3K and someone came in, said "put it in a bag-I don't care how much it costs"
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KopfeJager
12-23-2012, 13:21
What gets me is that they always blame the object....and not the human. The kid was twisted...it was not guns or video game or movies....all they did was help him live out his fantasies and his search for total dominance of others. He was already fucked up...he wasnt made that way from these objects. People in 'murica are naive on many subjects...and we also spend too much time trying not to offended each other by being pragmatic. Lets deal with the true facts! Also, one of the worst atrocities conducted in the US was via a truck bomb....not guns.
I am all for proper certification before having a weapon. But will that stop another slaughter? No....they'll always find a way.
Rickety Rob
12-24-2012, 06:15
I'll be buying me one this weekend. It will be my Christmas present to myself
Twizted875
12-24-2012, 08:00
One what? LoL
Rickety Rob
12-24-2012, 08:13
One what? LoL
That would make sense if I said what I was getting lol. I'm getting a Glock 23
Twizted875
12-24-2012, 10:47
Been there done that I had a glock 27 subcompact as my off duty weapon for many many years!
Rickety Rob
12-24-2012, 10:50
Been there done that I had a glock 27 subcompact as my off duty weapon for many many years!
What do you have now? This will be my first (to own) pistol
Twizted875
12-24-2012, 12:21
What do you have now? This will be my first (to own) pistol
springfield XD .40 subcompact. I love that shit lol I've got 4 12 round high caps for it as well...
iamthesgt
12-24-2012, 14:51
springfield XD .40 subcompact. I love that shit lol I've got 4 12 round high caps for it as well...
I have a xD 45 compact and I love it. 13rd mags are awesome. Really you can't go wrong with the xDs. I greatly prefer them to Glocks.
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Rickety Rob
12-26-2012, 06:30
springfield XD .40 subcompact. I love that shit lol I've got 4 12 round high caps for it as well...
Nice! I would get a gun that size but I would have no reason to have one that small. I couldn't bring it anywhere I wanted to
Twizted875
12-26-2012, 06:38
Springfield makes medium frame and full frame weapons in all calibers you should look into them. I greatly prefer the feel of them to the glock as well as the added backstrap safety
Rickety Rob
12-26-2012, 06:51
Springfield makes medium frame and full frame weapons in all calibers you should look into them. I greatly prefer the feel of them to the glock as well as the added backstrap safety
When I go this weekend, I'll take a look. The reason why I want to get a Glock is cause of the reliability of it
jxspyder
12-26-2012, 08:37
When I go this weekend, I'll take a look. The reason why I want to get a Glock is cause of the reliability of it
I'll pipe up here. I've got a 9mm XD, with several thousand rounds through it over the last 8 years. It fires just as well today as it did the day it came out of the box.
Now Glocks are great guns, but I've always found them overpriced because of the name.
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Rickety Rob
12-26-2012, 08:53
I'll pipe up here. I've got a 9mm XD, with several thousand rounds through it over the last 8 years. It fires just as well today as it did the day it came out of the box.
Now Glocks are great guns, but I've always found them overpriced because of the name.
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Is $499 for the Glock 23 over priced? I figured that was average for the price of that type of gun. Regardless of the brand name
Twizted875
12-26-2012, 09:58
I think I paid 350 for my glock 27 with several extra mags.... Ask for a discount lol.
iamthesgt
12-26-2012, 10:08
I think I paid 350 for my glock 27 with several extra mags.... Ask for a discount lol.
I doubt you'll get a discount with the current gun demand.
When I go this weekend, I'll take a look. The reason why I want to get a Glock is cause of the reliability of it
I believe xDs are as reliable as Glocks-they are also polymer pistols.
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Rickety Rob
12-26-2012, 10:11
I doubt you'll get a discount with the current gun demand.
I believe xDs are as reliable as Glocks-they are also polymer pistols.
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I'll look at the xDs when I go to the gun store
I think I paid 350 for my glock 27 with several extra mags.... Ask for a discount lol.
Nice! I'll see what I can get
jxspyder
12-26-2012, 11:30
Is $499 for the Glock 23 over priced? I figured that was average for the price of that type of gun. Regardless of the brand name
Sounds close. You'll probably save $50-100 with an XD.
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Twizted875
12-26-2012, 11:42
4574 there's my 40 lol
Rickety Rob
12-26-2012, 11:57
4574 there's my 40 lol
How's the kick?
Sounds close. You'll probably save $50-100 with an XD.
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That's always a plus lol
comanche_warior
12-26-2012, 12:43
4574 there's my 40 lol
Thats a nice one mine is a 9mm but its all black. Do you have the slip on grip or different sights for it yet? I have the Trijicon night sights they are really cool you should take a look at them.
comanche_warior
12-26-2012, 13:07
If I ever get a .45 or maybe a .45 Long this is the one I want, I may not get one I really like my 9mm but I may get another .357 or another 9mm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCy8MpT45gk If the link doesnt go directly too it its the Range Officer
Twizted875
12-26-2012, 14:04
Mine has the trijicon sights, and that is the 9 round mag for concealed carry I've also got 4 12 rounds with grip extenders. The kick is VERY good for a sub compact 40. Way better than my glock plus I love the bi-tone which isn't an option with glock.
iamthesgt
12-29-2012, 19:57
I have the older xD, so it doesn't look as cool as these fancy xDMs. Stock sights. I have Trijicon glow sights on my M&P, though and I love them in low light.
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Rickety Rob
12-31-2012, 06:48
I have the older xD, so it doesn't look as cool as these fancy xDMs. Stock sights. I have Trijicon glow sights on my M&P, though and I love them in low light.
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I don't know dude. I compared the two at the shop and there wasn't much difference the only thing that I noticed, visually, is that the pistol grips where different
iamthesgt
12-31-2012, 13:34
I don't know dude. I compared the two at the shop and there wasn't much difference the only thing that I noticed, visually, is that the pistol grips where different
Are you sure? The barrels are very noticeably different, xD to xD(M). Thinner profiles, angling, some big changes to make it a nicer carry gun.
jxspyder
12-31-2012, 13:48
Are you sure? The barrels are very noticeably different, xD to xD(M). Thinner profiles, angling, some big changes to make it a nicer carry gun.
I'd say it's very noticeable if you've carried one, not so much unless you're actively looking for it.
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iamthesgt
12-31-2012, 14:12
I'd say it's very noticeable if you've carried one, not so much unless you're actively looking for it.
I guess you're right. Now that I look at it, at a glance there's not much different there.
Rickety Rob
01-02-2013, 06:48
And that's what I did. I didn't hold the XDM but only visually looked at it. The only one that I held was the XD and it was def nicer compared to the others that I held
Twizted875
01-02-2013, 08:19
Ya the xd is a rock solid firearm I love the way it feels!
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