OpenDNS?

[ladym123]

I have been looking round at other ISP's for a better service and when I called up my provider today, low and behold they can offer me an upgrade for a third of the price I was paying for the lesser service ...assholes!

Anyway, I am easily swayed when it comes to saving some money lol, so I'm thinking I may stay put for now.

My question is, would PS3 benefit from switching to OpenDns? I use open on my Mac which speeds up searches etc but only on the device...not the router.

I have read that you get a better connection (not speed) and less drop outs etc if PS3 is also on Open? Then if so, can I change it on the system or would it have to be done on the router? I have never gone into my router settings before so this would be new territory for me.

Anyway... over to you techys

[smoke]

Do you normally have issues resolving names, or filtering content from your husband or children?
The only benefit I've seen out of OpenDNS is really DNS name filtering.

OpenDNS, isn't going to make your connection faster, or "better", maybe a bit safer, but that's about it. I believe the speed thing they are referring too in DNS caching, which really doesn't make it faster..

It's kinda just a trick to fool your browser.. What it does, when you first visit a site, it downloads the full website to your temp directory, then reads the local copy first, and any changes from the web.. This experience supposedly speeds up site viewing, however, I almost never realized a true difference at all.

If there is speed difference, it is maybe 10-15%- if that, basically, its hardly visible, unless your sitting there timing it with a stopwatch...

IMO - If your looking for a safer experience, absolutely.. OpenDNS is awesome!
However, if your looking for more speed, I would pass on OpenDNS, and upgrade your service to something faster. (If your at 8MB, try upgrading to 12MB, or maybe even 18 or faster..)

Just my opinion.. up to you.

I have been looking round at other ISP's for a better service and when I called up my provider today, low and behold they can offer me an upgrade for a third of the price I was paying for the lesser service ...assholes!

Anyway, I am easily swayed when it comes to saving some money lol, so I'm thinking I may stay put for now.

My question is, would PS3 benefit from switching to OpenDns? I use open on my Mac which speeds up searches etc but only on the device...not the router.

I have read that you get a better connection (not speed) and less drop outs etc if PS3 is also on Open? Then if so, can I change it on the system or would it have to be done on the router? I have never gone into my router settings before so this would be new territory for me.

Anyway... over to you techys

[ladym123]

Ok then what about my Nat Type?

I have 2 PS3's and one is Nat 2 and the other Nat 3 even though they are connected to the same network? Is that odd?

Also, whilst looking into it a bit more I read that you are supposed to adjust your router settings to enable a better connection ...open ports...add game ports...switch off firewalls...change to static IP's??? I looked at my router online and decided not to mess about with it as it was just all too much for me... and then it gave me a headache

lol!

Also I have upgraded to the 20meg broadband (should be 2 weeks to install) but the lady on the phone said that it didn't matter how much I went up to because my phone line can only go as fast as it will allow... no matter how much I upgrade to?

Thank goodness I know you!

[smoke]

NAT 2 would in theory be better then NAT3, however, has a lot to do with distance, and obstructions, etc..

NAT type 1: wired (best connection)
NAT type 2: wired/'wireless (strong connection)
NAT type 3: wireless (bad connection)

Their is always the caveat of making it faster, often means potentially opening yourself up to vulnerability. really its a matter of comfort.. If your happy with it, and you feel safe.. leave it alone.

What the rep told you is absolutely true.. You'll often notice that most ISPs will say "Speeds up to 20MB" which means, "it really depends on how shitty our infrastructure is in your areas."

Ok then what about my Nat Type?

I have 2 PS3's and one is Nat 2 and the other Nat 3 even though they are connected to the same network? Is that odd?

Also, whilst looking into it a bit more I read that you are supposed to adjust your router settings to enable a better connection ...open ports...add game ports...switch off firewalls...change to static IP's??? I looked at my router online and decided not to mess about with it as it was just all too much for me... and then it gave me a headache

lol!

Also I have upgraded to the 20meg broadband (should be 2 weeks to install) but the lady on the phone said that it didn't matter how much I went up to because my phone line can only go as fast as it will allow... no matter how much I upgrade to?

Thank goodness I know you!

[saviger]

Your ps3 doesn't use dns unless you are using the web browser.

DNS=domain name resolution
It takes your input ie. Google.com and gives your browser Google.com,s ip adress. 192.168.0.1 for example


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[ladym123]

Great thanks Smoke I will leave it as it is then

although one other thing why are the 2 ps3's on different Nat types though connected to same router?

Can I just change it on the one that is Nat 3...choose the Nat 2 option without having to adjust anything?

[XxSilentxFartxX]

Ok this is where my CCNA comes in. You can usually only open 1 gaming port, thus the NAT 2, on one system, the other automatically gets assigned less precedence. thus the NAT 3. in order to have both the same NAT type You can force Open two ports but they would constantly fight for Dominance. Or you can pick up a MiMo router. This stands for: Multiple In Multiple Out. You can then auto have both on the same NAT type and they would even be NAT 1. If you want I can remote in to your machine and prompt you to let me in to your router and I can adjust it for you or if you decide on the MiMo router i can set it up for you. I will do this for any USMG member free of charge lol.

[ladym123]

Ok this is where my CCNA comes in. You can usually only open 1 gaming port, thus the NAT 2, on one system, the other automatically gets assigned less precedence. thus the NAT 3. in order to have both the same NAT type You can force Open two ports but they would constantly fight for Dominance. Or you can pick up a MiMo router. This stands for: Multiple In Multiple Out. You can then auto have both on the same NAT type and they would even be NAT 1. If you want I can remote in to your machine and prompt you to let me in to your router and I can adjust it for you or if you decide on the MiMo router i can set it up for you. I will do this for any USMG member free of charge lol.

Thanks silent :-) what will happen though if they are on forced open ports? Is that a bad thing then?

[XxSilentxFartxX]

No not bad, just not always guranteed to work

[ladym123]

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/332489...rlrefer=search


Is this what you mean?

[smoke]

IMO - I would just leave it alone.. It works right? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Thanks silent :-) what will happen though if they are on forced open ports? Is that a bad thing then?

[ladym123]

IMO - I would just leave it alone.. It works right? If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

The Nat 2 one works fine but Little Big Planet 2 keeps giving a nat type message on the other system and also connection issues on that game....maybe it's the game though?

[smoke]

I guess I'm confused.
It shouldn't matter, as your Router should be able to handle incoming traffic based on request from the PS3 without issue no matter what the setting is.. What I'm saying is you should not need to open a big gaping hole for your game system, or set any kind of port forwarding to support your PS3. (Unless, your sharing files from your PS3 to anyone out on the web, which I would highly encourage you to NOT do..)

What is this error you speak of? Do you have a screenshot?

The Nat 2 one works fine but Little Big Planet 2 keeps giving a nat type message on the other system and also connection issues on that game....maybe it's the game though?

[XxSilentxFartxX]

You wouldnt open a big gaping hole. She has two ps3s and if they are both on and connected only one is able to Have the NAT 2. the other will get a NAT 3. A MiMo will give them both Nat1 or 2. Or she could forward the port for the 2nd ps3 resulting in both having the ports open they need to allow for NAT 2

[ladym123]

So am I right in thinking that if I set both as Nat 2 there will only be a problem if both systems are active at the same time?

I need to test the systems I think as me getting the 2nd system, coincided with the release of Black Op's ...which is obviously a hive of problems...and LBP2...which seems to be causing people problems too. I haven't really played any other games apart from those on the new system.

What ya think?

[smoke]

I realize that, however, why? I don't have any ports open at all on my router, or my firewall, and my PS3 works just fine.

You wouldnt open a big gaping hole. She has two ps3s and if they are both on and connected only one is able to Have the NAT 2. the other will get a NAT 3. A MiMo will give them both Nat1 or 2. Or she could forward the port for the 2nd ps3 resulting in both having the ports open they need to allow for NAT 2

[smoke]

ok, so after some research. (Actually, about 5 minutes worth.. ) Here is a good writeup on why you might need to open ports for your PS3.

However, it should be noted that port forwarding is not a requirement for your PS3 to work. Like me, your PS3 might work just fine without opening anything at all.

If your PlayStation 3 is operating slow, losing connection, or just not working right most of the time the chances are that you need to change some settings on your Internet router or firewall. Routers use NAT(Network Address Translation) to allow multiple devices to function behind the router as if they all have the public address that your ISP(Internet Service Provider) has provided to you. The PS3 requires various ports to be open to communicate with other users online as well as other ports to be opened to the PlayStation 3 for other games to function properly. Below I list these ports required for the PS3 to operate, ports required for certain games to operate, and followed by a brief explanation of what you need to look for in terms of configuring your router or firewall.

Please note that these ports are either going to be UDP(User Datagram Protocol) or TCP(Transmission Control Protocol) as specified below.
Ports Open For PS3
UDP: 3658, UDP: 3478-3479
TCP: 80, 443, 5223
Army of Two
UDP: 3658
TCP: 6000
Motor Storm
UDP: 3659-3660
Burnout Revenge
UDP: 3659, 9600-9699
Resistance Fall of Man
UDP: 9600-9699
Call of Duty 3
TCP: 3074
UDP: 3074
What To Look For On Your Router Or Firewall:
If you want to make this work for all games without every having to update things and you do not have other devices on your network that require port forwarding then you can set your PS3 IP as the DMZ IP on your router. If not look for the applications or port forwarding section on your router. Also look for anything related to NAT if you are unable to find the port forwarding section.

[ladym123]

Yes that's what I read...or along those lines anyway. Maybe it would solve the Black Op's problems and LBP2? I looked all over the booklet for GT5 though (as it was handy at the time) and there were no port numbers on it. Checked out my router and there was already a drop down list of games that you could just 'add' to your device but none of the games I have. You can manually add them but I was afraid to start tinkering with it so left well alone.

As for the Dmz thing, I read that it could cause problems and security risks and as you say...if it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm wondering though if the connection issues I get joining you all are not distance related as I first thought and maybe because of the Nat 3 issue?

I will have to play on both systems a few times with you to compare... before I can reach a conclusion I guess. If it's a problem on one and not the other...etc.

[XxSilentxFartxX]

Yes with your current settings only 1 can be a NAT 2 if both active at the same time

[ladym123]

Yes with your current settings only 1 can be a NAT 2 if both active at the same time

ok so I could change it as and when I play... if nobody is using the other PS3 at the same time?

[MaximusR3]

I've had 2 PS3's and a wii on one network for a while and found it most optimal to open all the recommended ports for one ps3 with all the default internet connection settings, then set the other ps3 up manually with a static IP and put it in the DMZ. The wii i never worry about because all i ever played online with that was mario kart and i rarely play it anymore anyways. prior to having it all setup that way i would have occasional issues and errors but it has been running strong ever since.

As for LBP, i don't not what the deal is but having nat 3 on those games and it absolutely has a fit. Especially when trying to connect to someone else's pod or using a mic. I'd recommend trying any of the suggestions in this thread to get to nat 2 or better so it stops yelling at you every time you connect to the lbp servers

[ladym123]

As for LBP, i don't not what the deal is but having nat 3 on those games and it absolutely has a fit. Especially when trying to connect to someone else's pod or using a mic. I'd recommend trying any of the suggestions in this thread to get to nat 2 or better so it stops yelling at you every time you connect to the lbp servers

I played with Sigs and Db on the Nat 3 and it was quite unstable. Last night I played on the Nat 2 with some random person and it was pretty much ok, so maybe I'll just play any online stuff on that one from now on... wherever that's possible. I usually play online when everyone's in bed anyway so it shouldn't be a problem.