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Crusty
01-18-2010, 10:10
What's your take on them? I saw a P229 and P239. Was just curious because I don't know much about the Sig firearms.

jack
01-18-2010, 10:14
reliable but expensive.

Timmy_2_Tones
01-18-2010, 11:39
Sig was originally a Swiss/German company named Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft In the 80's they split that company into two different corporations. Sig is the American import partner and Swiss Arms AG is the european mothership. Sig does do some Manufacturing in America since they have built upp their Mfg. capability.

They have really good hand-guns and rifles. Like jack said they are pricey, but they are worth it.

jack
01-18-2010, 11:42
yep,yep :D

Timmy_2_Tones
01-18-2010, 11:44
yep,yep :D

LOL!

Crusty
01-18-2010, 13:47
hmm ... cool. Good to know.

smoke
01-18-2010, 14:47
I prefer Springfield Armory. Something like the XD series (http://www.springfield-armory.com/xd.php?version=76)

I have a S&W Sigma now, its a little top heavy, but still decent at CQ

Timmy_2_Tones
01-18-2010, 14:49
My favorite handguns are Springfields, Walther, and H&K.

jack
01-18-2010, 17:40
Fnh their fnp series is smooth. Also ruger's p series is very reliable.

saviger
01-18-2010, 17:41
I like the Sig .22 pistol, lots of fun and cheap to shoot.

jack
01-18-2010, 17:44
I like the Sig .22 pistol, lots of fun and cheap to shoot.
if you're into that checkout Walther, they make a damn good 22's. overall great guns in any cartridge.

hello miss moneypenny

Crusty
01-18-2010, 17:59
Well I was looking at handguns at the store today ... only in a small town would the local grocery store have a handgun selection, right? lol

Anyway, the SIG P229 was $700, but I like that it is a bit smaller. The Springfield XD I think will end up being my first firearm though. I wouldn't mind having one better for concealing, especially when I go camping (just for the reassurance without toting anything too big), so I was kind of looking at some XD variations that were smaller. Don't know though. I need to research before getting my first gun. I think maybe I'll go take some shooting classes, see if I can test out a few before buying so I know what I'd like. But, with what you all have told me and what I've heard Springfield is a great way to go.

jack
01-18-2010, 18:04
Well I was looking at handguns at the store today ... only in a small town would the local grocery store have a handgun selection, right? lol

Anyway, the SIG P229 was $700, but I like that it is a bit smaller. The Springfield XD I think will end up being my first firearm though. I wouldn't mind having one better for concealing, especially when I go camping (just for the reassurance without toting anything too big), so I was kind of looking at some XD variations that were smaller. Don't know though. I need to research before getting my first gun. I think maybe I'll go take some shooting classes, see if I can test out a few before buying so I know what I'd like. But, with what you all have told me and what I've heard Springfield is a great way to go. if you're going to drop 700 get a glock they have it in a high cap 45 21 SF 14 rounds.

saviger
01-18-2010, 18:06
when you move on to big boy guns (Battle Rifles :D ) let me know.

http://lifelibertyetc.com/images/products/rifleman-cook.jpg

"Your right to protect yourself, your family, your community and your country rests on your ability to hit the target when needed. Can you do it? Or, if the time comes, will they watch you shoot and say "You'll serve better as a cook - report to the kitchen!" Fred

jack
01-18-2010, 18:09
when you move on to big boy guns (Battle Rifles :D ) let me know.

http://lifelibertyetc.com/images/products/rifleman-cook.jpg

"Your right to protect yourself, your family, your community and your country rests on your ability to hit the target when needed. Can you do it? Or, if the time comes, will they watch you shoot and say "You'll serve better as a cook - report to the kitchen!" Fred
aaahhhh the classic ghetto blaster. :lol:

saviger
01-18-2010, 18:10
lol

Crusty
01-18-2010, 18:12
when you move on to big boy guns (Battle Rifles :D ) let me know.

http://lifelibertyetc.com/images/products/rifleman-cook.jpg

"Your right to protect yourself, your family, your community and your country rests on your ability to hit the target when needed. Can you do it? Or, if the time comes, will they watch you shoot and say "You'll serve better as a cook - report to the kitchen!" Fred

will do. right now I'm just thinking handguns though because when (hopefully when and not "if") I go into the police force I'll need an off duty weapon.

jack
01-18-2010, 18:16
when you move on to big boy guns (Battle Rifles :D ) let me know.

http://lifelibertyetc.com/images/products/rifleman-cook.jpg

"Your right to protect yourself, your family, your community and your country rests on your ability to hit the target when needed. Can you do it? Or, if the time comes, will they watch you shoot and say "You'll serve better as a cook - report to the kitchen!" Fred

will do. right now I'm just thinking handguns though because when (hopefully when and not "if") I go into the police force I'll need an off duty weapon.
GLOCK 21 SF

Lorimere
01-18-2010, 18:18
when you move on to big boy guns (Battle Rifles :D ) let me know.

http://lifelibertyetc.com/images/products/rifleman-cook.jpg

"Your right to protect yourself, your family, your community and your country rests on your ability to hit the target when needed. Can you do it? Or, if the time comes, will they watch you shoot and say "You'll serve better as a cook - report to the kitchen!" Fred

Like this one? Romanian PSL
http://lh6.ggpht.com/jwxspoon/SIjTdA2NR8I/AAAAAAAACms/X-vRnuFCyTk/s512/P7120420.JPG

saviger
01-18-2010, 18:20
very nice indeed, wheres she from?

jack
01-18-2010, 18:22
when you move on to big boy guns (Battle Rifles :D ) let me know.

http://lifelibertyetc.com/images/products/rifleman-cook.jpg

"Your right to protect yourself, your family, your community and your country rests on your ability to hit the target when needed. Can you do it? Or, if the time comes, will they watch you shoot and say "You'll serve better as a cook - report to the kitchen!" Fred

Like this one?
http://lh6.ggpht.com/jwxspoon/SIjTdA2NR8I/AAAAAAAACms/X-vRnuFCyTk/s512/P7120420.JPG
Aaahhhh the classic Russian ghetto blaster or the blaststovavitch as it is referred to.

Lorimere
01-18-2010, 18:25
very nice indeed, wheres she from?

From a friends collection. He has a ton of diffrent weapons and during a get together summer or two back we went out and shot a lot of them. Only have a few pics, but here is a list that we had.

M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
H&K G3
Romanian PSL sniper rifle
AK47
SKS
M4
Russian M44
M95 Steyr
Fn-49
Spanish FR8
Spanish M1916 Mauser
Lee-Enfield SMLE (No. 1 Mark III)
Lee-Enfield No4. Mk I,
Ruger Mini-14
Marlin .45-70
Saiga .308
Springfield 1903A3

Not to mention about 10 or so diffrent pistols on hand. Was a hell of a good time.

Timmy_2_Tones
01-18-2010, 19:07
Blaststovavitch that is funny as hell.

Crusty
01-18-2010, 22:10
Ok so I want to study firearms. Types, makers, models, specs, etc. I think this (coupled with a wide variety of other studies) can help make me more of a commodity when I seek employment with federal law enforcement (especially if I were to join the ATF*silent E*). I figure it can't hurt, lol.

I do plan on getting in as much personal experience as possible, once I have the money to go to shooting ranges and be able to fire a wide range of weaponry. Until then, I figured I'd read up on the subject as much as possible. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for reliable sources. Certainly I'm going to do some basic research on wikipedia, including using them as a reference for all the different models (which I know they have a list of), but that is really only useful if I can cross reference their info with more reliable sources.

jack
01-19-2010, 01:23
Ok so I want to study firearms. Types, makers, models, specs, etc. I think this (coupled with a wide variety of other studies) can help make me more of a commodity when I seek employment with federal law enforcement (especially if I were to join the ATF*silent E*). I figure it can't hurt, lol.

I do plan on getting in as much personal experience as possible, once I have the money to go to shooting ranges and be able to fire a wide range of weaponry. Until then, I figured I'd read up on the subject as much as possible. So I'm wondering what you all recommend for reliable sources. Certainly I'm going to do some basic research on wikipedia, including using them as a reference for all the different models (which I know they have a list of), but that is really only useful if I can cross reference their info with more reliable sources.
guns and ammo and tactical arms

jack
01-19-2010, 01:29
Blaststovavitch that is funny as hell.
yep, yep :lol:

Crusty
01-19-2010, 01:37
I can't believe I didn't think of that. Thanks jack!

jack
01-19-2010, 01:39
np cru :D

saviger
01-19-2010, 16:58
http://www.ar15.com

massive community of/for everything that goes bang.

Crusty
01-19-2010, 17:04
http://www.ar15.com

massive community of/for everything that goes bang.

ok, so one thing I don't like about that site is that it won't let me register with my gmail account. :?

Timmy_2_Tones
01-19-2010, 17:06
The Blue Book of Gun Values. I have one and surprisnigly it has alot more than just gun values in it.
https://store.bluebookinc.com/Ecom/ProductDetail.aspx?Industry=1&id=315
On that note I always offer my service if anyone is curious about the value of a gun.