Battlefield Bad Company to return?

[iamthesgt]

Heh oh yeah I remember that....

Oh yeah that annoyed me to no end

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[jxspyder]

Recon class had offensive gadgets (C4, mortar strike) the UAV's were actually deadly and not only used for spotting. Snipers had ghuille suits and you needed skill to find them. There was no scope sway in BC2 and the rifles shot faster without such a dramatic bullet drop. It was actually pretty predictable on the distance unlike in BF3 where it was really random. You couldnt go prone in BC2 and the Assault class wasnt a medic like it is in BF3. The vehicle splash damage was way larger than it is in BF3, if you shot next to a guy he couldnt run away unharmed. The M-COMS you could destroy without setting the charge and you could destroy your own as well, you cant do any of those in BF3. I really hoped they would have put that in that would eliminate the C4 spammers.

Yeah, about the only improvement bf3 made was going prone

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[iamthesgt]

I'd say scope sway was an improvement, but everything else about recon was a step back. Scope glint was cool, but it was retarded when they were sitting in darkness and the light gave them away. Would have been nice if it had been realistic, but it was poorly implemented.

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[Peyote69]

I'd say scope sway was an improvement, but everything else about recon was a step back. Scope glint was cool, but it was retarded when they were sitting in darkness and the light gave them away. Would have been nice if it had been realistic, but it was poorly implemented.

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Yep they definitely took a step backward on the snipers from bc2 to bf3 IMO. I actually enjoyed sniping in bc2 but have a very hard time in bf3; it almost seems like they wanted to make the snipers in bf3 be more assault-in-your-face type of sniper instead of the sit-back-take-the-perfect-shot snipers in bc2.

[Ragingclue]

Yep they definitely took a step backward on the snipers from bc2 to bf3 IMO. I actually enjoyed sniping in bc2 but have a very hard time in bf3; it almost seems like they wanted to make the snipers in bf3 be more assault-in-your-face type of sniper instead of the sit-back-take-the-perfect-shot snipers in bc2.

I think BF3 made it more "Recon", less "Sniper". I hardly bother with the class on BF3 as I suck at it. I used it quite a bit in BC2 and actually liked it despite the fact that you couldn't go prone (which seems to me like a pretty important thing for a guy with a sniper rifle).

[iamthesgt]

I think BF3 made it more "Recon", less "Sniper". I hardly bother with the class on BF3 as I suck at it. I used it quite a bit in BC2 and actually liked it despite the fact that you couldn't go prone (which seems to me like a pretty important thing for a guy with a sniper rifle).

I enjoyed Recon many times. It's my least-used class (I think I've put 43 hours into it on Xbox, compared to around 75 for Assault and 65 for Engineer), but when I need it, it's very useful. I think there are some really dumb things (excessive scope glint, so much that except on open maps like Firestorm I never use 7x+ scopes), but overall it serves its purpose and a good Recon player can really help the team.

Honestly I think the lack of offensive gadgets for Recon really makes it important for team play. I think most of the people whining about that are Lone Wolves who don't play as a squad. If you're well-organized, a squad needs that Recon guy, and he can really help.

[comanche_warior]

Yep they definitely took a step backward on the snipers from bc2 to bf3 IMO. I actually enjoyed sniping in bc2 but have a very hard time in bf3; it almost seems like they wanted to make the snipers in bf3 be more assault-in-your-face type of sniper instead of the sit-back-take-the-perfect-shot snipers in bc2.

Yeah they made it better in the beta not such a dramatic sway, and the glint isnt as bad but still bad. You can still be in complete darkness and see the glint. There is a thread in the battlelog forums from DICE asking about the vapor trail. I encourage you to put your input about it and the glint.

[comanche_warior]

I think BF3 made it more "Recon", less "Sniper". I hardly bother with the class on BF3 as I suck at it. I used it quite a bit in BC2 and actually liked it despite the fact that you couldn't go prone (which seems to me like a pretty important thing for a guy with a sniper rifle).

I actually didnt mind not being able to go prone though it was a pain in the butt to hide, but with the suit it was to balance it out more than anything.

[comanche_warior]

I think most of the people whining about that are Lone Wolves who don't play as a squad. If you're well-organized, a squad needs that Recon guy, and he can really help.

Yes but when your squad sucks the lack of offensive gadgets suck even more. I have been in a few games where I was the top of my team going solo because everybody was running around with their thumb up their ass.

[Ragingclue]

Honestly I think the lack of offensive gadgets for Recon really makes it important for team play. I think most of the people whining about that are Lone Wolves who don't play as a squad. If you're well-organized, a squad needs that Recon guy, and he can really help.

I don't whine about it, but I sure notice that it sucks without good team play. I basically don't use scopes over 4x magnification and try to spot as well as I can while still trying to remain relevant to the fight. I suck at sniping. The gadgets are neat, but hard to be used effectively when you don't have a communicating squad. And I played most of my BF3 time on PC in pugs (which I agree is my own doing), so it was hard to be effective that way. I kinda lost interest in the class because of that.

[HAVOK]

Some people liked the destruction in BC2 better.
More weapons in BF3
More vehicles in BF3
Slightly better graphics in BF3

Overall, BF3 was better IMO but it was an incremental improvement, not a major one. (Like BF4 seems to be to BF3)

The main difference to me was the update on movement mechanics. In BC2 you can't run in one direction while looking in another. That was THE biggest, most useful change they made when BF3 dropped. To me, of course. Others liked other improvements, but that one simple update changed the whole game for me.

[iamthesgt]

I don't whine about it, but I sure notice that it sucks without good team play. I basically don't use scopes over 4x magnification and try to spot as well as I can while still trying to remain relevant to the fight. I suck at sniping. The gadgets are neat, but hard to be used effectively when you don't have a communicating squad. And I played most of my BF3 time on PC in pugs (which I agree is my own doing), so it was hard to be effective that way. I kinda lost interest in the class because of that.

Well we'll play together on BF3. They have voice chat apparently. Who else is going PC?

[Ragingclue]

Well we'll play together on BF3. They have voice chat apparently. Who else is going PC?

Yup there's in-game VOIP now. Giggity.

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[Gunnut88]

Recon class had offensive gadgets (C4, mortar strike) the UAV's were actually deadly and not only used for spotting. Snipers had ghuille suits and you needed skill to find them. There was no scope sway in BC2 and the rifles shot faster without such a dramatic bullet drop. It was actually pretty predictable on the distance unlike in BF3 where it was really random. You couldnt go prone in BC2 and the Assault class wasnt a medic like it is in BF3. The vehicle splash damage was way larger than it is in BF3, if you shot next to a guy he couldnt run away unharmed. The M-COMS you could destroy without setting the charge and you could destroy your own as well, you cant do any of those in BF3. I really hoped they would have put that in that would eliminate the C4 spammers.

But when I'm bored and just want to piss people off I love C4 spamming esp on tdm and ctf.

[ssandersjr]

But when I'm bored and just want to piss people off I love C4 spamming esp on tdm and ctf.

The c4 spammers were out in force on BF4 last night. Filling the elevators and waiting for you ride to the top of the buildings

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[Gunnut88]

The c4 spammers were out in force on BF4 last night. Filling the elevators and waiting for you ride to the top of the buildings

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I know I was one of them before we squadded up. The rage and hate mail was delicious.

[ssandersjr]

I know I was one of them before we squadded up. The rage and hate mail was delicious.

Lol one of "those" people

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[iamthesgt]

Lol one of "those" people

Hey I love getting hate mail. It means I'm doing my job. It's especially good when I'm not even trolling, just killing the shit out of someone.

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[River_Rat_459]

Back on topic: I think that one of the more important aspects of BC1 and 2 is that the characters were memorable. I can't name the main characters from BF3 to save my life.

Sure, the characters from the CoD: MW series are also memorable, but that's where the ball was dropped as far as the campaign went for BF3 (that and it played like it was on rails at times).

BF3 still rules in the multiplayer category, IMO.

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[Gunnut88]

Lol one of "those" people

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Of course gotta be sometimes, lol, but I think I will prefer the XM25 over c4. So much fun blowing someone up while they try to run for cover. Or go high in tdm and rain death from above hehe. Can't wait.

[Brian]

Of course gotta be sometimes, lol, but I think I will prefer the XM25 over c4. So much fun blowing someone up while they try to run for cover. Or go high in tdm and rain death from above hehe. Can't wait.

That gun is so awesome.


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[Ragingclue]

Haha the XM25. So baller.

[iamthesgt]

Back on topic: I think that one of the more important aspects of BC1 and 2 is that the characters were memorable. I can't name the main characters from BF3 to save my life.

Sure, the characters from the CoD: MW series are also memorable, but that's where the ball was dropped as far as the campaign went for BF3 (that and it played like it was on rails at times).

BF3 still rules in the multiplayer category, IMO.

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I can't remember anyone's name in either. Except the Russian operative in BF3 was Dima, but that's just cause I played it recently. The dialogue in BC2 was just so stupid I lost all interest

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[Timmy_2_Tones]

If another Bad Company is released I will be happy, I loved the campaign in those games. I even enjoyed the MP part, that was mostly because of playing with USMG but it was still fun.